What I find most fascinating that we're asking students to sit still alone
with their thoughts for 5-10 minutes (maybe 20 for the first finishers) and
they simply can't do it! I know back in the day when I finished a test, I
just had to sit there. Some professors would not even allow us to put our
heads down.
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Jennifer Imazeki <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> My students usually have their devices out because I use them as clickers
> with PollEverywhere (which I've written about on my blog a bunch of times:
> http://economicsforteachers.blogspot.com/search/label/PollEverywhere).
>
> However, I do tell them to put everything away during the RATs. I think it
> helps if you have something for students to do while they wait for others
> to finish (and if you're using the five-minute rule, no one should have to
> wait THAT long). There have been other threads on this list about 'sponge'
> activities. I've even used just simple logic puzzles, printed on the back
> side of the iRAT, to give them something productive to do.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Tobin, Tammy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Heck, I have bunsen burners in the room..... soooo tempting.....
>>
>> Seriously, though, students will never respect rules that are not
>> enforced. I second Jim's approach.
>>
>> Having said that, a faculty member my age runs the risk of being called
>> a Luddite, despite the fact that I use massive databases and servers for my
>> research. Thus, I am trying to meet the students where they are, when
>> possible. Does anyone have good ideas for cell phone use in TBL activities?
>>
>> Tammy Tobin
>> Susquehanna University
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2013, at 3:58 PM, "Sibley, James Edward" <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> This is probably an urban mtyh….but
>>
>> I heard a story of a teacher that got a pickle jar…..filled it with
>> water….went to the cell phone store….and got some old, recycled
>> phones…..and put them in the jar…..she would cart the jar to class and put
>> it on her desk
>>
>> She said to her students….your phone rings….goes in the jar…..I catch
>> you on the phone when you are not supposed to be….in the jar
>>
>> She never drowned a students cell phone….but she got their attention
>>
>>
>> ######################
>>
>> But seriously
>>
>> State your rules clearly….when a student contravenes them…..with a bit
>> of ceremony….take their iRAT and tear it up…..you typically don't ever get
>> a chance to tear up a second one…..
>>
>> JIm
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>> From: Thomas DeWitt <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: Thomas DeWitt <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:45 PM
>> To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: RATs, talking and cell phone use
>>
>> Kristina,
>>
>> I don't allow the use of electronic devices AT ANY TIME during my
>> classes. If you have problems with students who can't resist the
>> temptation even though you've made this a condition for participation in
>> your class, then you can take it from them and have them pick it up after
>> class.
>>
>> Cheers, Tom
>>
>>
>> Tom DeWitt, Ph.D.
>> Director
>> Office of Applied Learning Experiences (ALEX)
>> University of Hawaii at Hilo
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Spaulding, Kristina N <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>
>>> Good afternoon,
>>>
>>> I am having some issues with talking and cell phone/electronic device
>>> use during RATs. I teach large classes (70 and 200 students), so
>>> management has become an issue. These are the specific issues I'm having:
>>>
>>> 1) Talking and electronic device use by students who have finished
>>> the iRAT while other students are still completing their iRATs.
>>>
>>> 2) Electronic device use during tRATs.
>>>
>>> Number One bothers me because students could be looking up answers on
>>> their devices, but also because the talking interferes with the ability of
>>> the remaining students to finish their iRATs. If most of the class is done
>>> it can get quite loud. No matter how many times I ask them to be quiet,
>>> this continues to be an issue. I don't have this problem at any other time
>>> during class (for example, during class discussions or when I lecture).
>>>
>>> Students are also using their electronic devices during tRATs. In
>>> most cases, I think they are texting or goofing off, but obviously, in
>>> large classes like this, it's impossible to tell. I have told them not to
>>> talk and to put their devices away, but they do it anyway. In my 70 person
>>> class, between my TA and I, we can keep a fairly good handle on it, by
>>> asking students to put away their device if we see them using it, but in a
>>> class of 200 this is impossible. I'm considering implementing some kind of
>>> punishment - for example, students caught using devices before the end of
>>> the tRAT will receive a zero, or even the whole team will receive a zero,
>>> but I also feel this may be too harsh. How have others handled this
>>> problem?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Kristina
>>>
>>> _________________________________________
>>>
>>> Kristina N. Spaulding
>>>
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>>>
>>
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