What I find most fascinating that we're asking students to sit still alone with their thoughts for 5-10 minutes (maybe 20 for the first finishers) and they simply can't do it! I know back in the day when I finished a test, I just had to sit there. Some professors would not even allow us to put our heads down. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Jennifer Imazeki <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > My students usually have their devices out because I use them as clickers > with PollEverywhere (which I've written about on my blog a bunch of times: > http://economicsforteachers.blogspot.com/search/label/PollEverywhere). > > However, I do tell them to put everything away during the RATs. I think it > helps if you have something for students to do while they wait for others > to finish (and if you're using the five-minute rule, no one should have to > wait THAT long). There have been other threads on this list about 'sponge' > activities. I've even used just simple logic puzzles, printed on the back > side of the iRAT, to give them something productive to do. > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Tobin, Tammy <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Heck, I have bunsen burners in the room..... soooo tempting..... >> >> Seriously, though, students will never respect rules that are not >> enforced. I second Jim's approach. >> >> Having said that, a faculty member my age runs the risk of being called >> a Luddite, despite the fact that I use massive databases and servers for my >> research. Thus, I am trying to meet the students where they are, when >> possible. Does anyone have good ideas for cell phone use in TBL activities? >> >> Tammy Tobin >> Susquehanna University >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Sep 20, 2013, at 3:58 PM, "Sibley, James Edward" <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> This is probably an urban mtyh….but >> >> I heard a story of a teacher that got a pickle jar…..filled it with >> water….went to the cell phone store….and got some old, recycled >> phones…..and put them in the jar…..she would cart the jar to class and put >> it on her desk >> >> She said to her students….your phone rings….goes in the jar…..I catch >> you on the phone when you are not supposed to be….in the jar >> >> She never drowned a students cell phone….but she got their attention >> >> >> ###################### >> >> But seriously >> >> State your rules clearly….when a student contravenes them…..with a bit >> of ceremony….take their iRAT and tear it up…..you typically don't ever get >> a chance to tear up a second one….. >> >> JIm >> -- >> Jim Sibley >> Director >> Centre for Instructional Support >> Faculty of Applied Science >> University of British Columbia >> 2205-6250 Applied Science Lane >> Vancouver, BC Canada >> V6T 1Z4 >> >> Phone 604.822.9241 >> Fax 604.822.7006 >> >> Email: *[log in to unmask]* >> >> Check out *http:// <http://cis.apsc.ubc.ca/>www.teambasedlearning.org* >> >> >> © Copyright 2013, Jim Sibley, All rights reserved The information >> contained in this e-mail message and any attachments (collectively >> "message") is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the >> recipient (or recipients) named above. If the reader of this message is >> not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received >> this message in error and that any review, use, distribution, or copying of >> this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, >> please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, and delete the meesage. >> >> From: Thomas DeWitt <[log in to unmask]> >> Reply-To: Thomas DeWitt <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:45 PM >> To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: RATs, talking and cell phone use >> >> Kristina, >> >> I don't allow the use of electronic devices AT ANY TIME during my >> classes. If you have problems with students who can't resist the >> temptation even though you've made this a condition for participation in >> your class, then you can take it from them and have them pick it up after >> class. >> >> Cheers, Tom >> >> >> Tom DeWitt, Ph.D. >> Director >> Office of Applied Learning Experiences (ALEX) >> University of Hawaii at Hilo >> www.hilo.hawaii.edu/ALEX >> phone: 808.987.6551 >> email: [log in to unmask] >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Spaulding, Kristina N <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >> >>> Good afternoon, >>> >>> I am having some issues with talking and cell phone/electronic device >>> use during RATs. I teach large classes (70 and 200 students), so >>> management has become an issue. These are the specific issues I'm having: >>> >>> 1) Talking and electronic device use by students who have finished >>> the iRAT while other students are still completing their iRATs. >>> >>> 2) Electronic device use during tRATs. >>> >>> Number One bothers me because students could be looking up answers on >>> their devices, but also because the talking interferes with the ability of >>> the remaining students to finish their iRATs. If most of the class is done >>> it can get quite loud. No matter how many times I ask them to be quiet, >>> this continues to be an issue. I don't have this problem at any other time >>> during class (for example, during class discussions or when I lecture). >>> >>> Students are also using their electronic devices during tRATs. In >>> most cases, I think they are texting or goofing off, but obviously, in >>> large classes like this, it's impossible to tell. I have told them not to >>> talk and to put their devices away, but they do it anyway. In my 70 person >>> class, between my TA and I, we can keep a fairly good handle on it, by >>> asking students to put away their device if we see them using it, but in a >>> class of 200 this is impossible. I'm considering implementing some kind of >>> punishment - for example, students caught using devices before the end of >>> the tRAT will receive a zero, or even the whole team will receive a zero, >>> but I also feel this may be too harsh. How have others handled this >>> problem? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Kristina >>> >>> _________________________________________ >>> >>> Kristina N. Spaulding >>> >>> Doctoral candidate >>> >>> Gallup lab >>> >>> Department of Psychology >>> >>> University at Albany >>> >>> HU B68-E >>> >>> 442-4786 >>> >>> OH: Tue 12:00 PM - 1:30 PM >>> >>> Fri 1:00 - 2:30 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > -- Herb Coleman, Ph.D Dir. Instructional Computing and Technology Adjunct Professor of Psychology Austin Community College Highland Business Center 5930 Middle Fiskville Rd. 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