As a Latin-Americanist, I belong to a number of organization that have
either differential fees for members from countries where academic
salaries do not match those of the US, or they hit up members for
contributions to fund membership & travel for either student members or
part-time instructors, or members from countries where salaries are
lower than in the US. I would be happy to pay a higher membership fee to
TBLC in order to provide either differential membership fees or
scholarships.
Kathy McKnight
U. of New Mexico
Kathryn J. McKnight
Associate Professor of Spanish
Associate Director for Academic Programs
Latin American & Iberian Institute
MSC 02 1690
801 Yale Blvd NE
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
http://laii.unm.edu/
>>> Daniel Moraga 06/21/11 2:04 PM >>>
Thanks Bill for the e-mail.
I just want to said that I am concern because I cannot access to TBLC
because don´t have funding to the pay for membership.
Sadly to say, that I feel discriminated because I don't have money to
access to that collaborative site.
The hidden message here is: spend money with us and have better access
to TBL. Bad and Sad.
Daniel Moraga
Dr. Daniel Moraga Ph.D.
Director Oficina de Educación Médica
Facultad de Medicina, UCN
Larrondo 1281
Coquimbo-Chile
Fono 51-209864
Celular: 82349426
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Web: http://oem.sede.ucn.cl/
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De: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] En
nombre de Bill Goffe
Enviado el: martes, 21 de junio de 2011 12:23
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Asunto: Re: TBLC Website update
I'm very sympathetic to funding issues for academic Internet endeavors.
Some 14 years ago (of course ancient in Internet time) I started
http://rfe.org . After some years I found a sponsor, the American
Economic
Association, and one requirement I had was that it be open to all. I'm
also involved in http://repec.org , which is entirely based on volunteer
efforts and all its content is freely available. It is very widely used
in
my discipline; in a typical month there are 2,500,000 abstract views.
One
of its servers, http://nep.repec.org/ , is hosted on my campus and I
help
administer it. I've even written on this issue in “The Future
Information
Infrastructure in Economics,” (with Robert P. Parks) The Journal of
Economic Perspectives; vol. 11, no. 3, 1997, pp. 75-94 (it is a
well-known
journal in my discipline with an impact factor of 3.5).
Ruth said:
> I would like to echo what Michael has said. I appreciate that it can
> be frustrating when you come to a website and you run into a "$60
> paywall". But please trust us that we in the TBLC are not trying to
> enrich ourselves, we are only trying to survive as an organization.
Understood, but keep in mind that many of use don't have a mechanism to
charge something like this to our department -- we'd be paying out of
our
own pocket. Such a payment is 100% foreign to my discipline. At the
recent
"AEA Conference on Teaching Economics and Research in Economic
Education"
I and three other economists (Molly Espy, Paul Hettler, and Jennifer
Imazeki) did a two hour workshop on TBL. Many would have been startled
to
hear of a $60 charge for materials. For someone looking at adopting TBL
outside professional schools this could be a significant negative
factor.
Also, perhaps http://www.teambasedlearning.org/benefits might echo these
points? To my ear, as-is, this page very much has the ring of a
commercial
venture. Why not explicitly say here what my money is going for?
> The $60 dues help pay not only for administrative support, they also
> provide support of our annual meeting, business expenses such as mail
> and fedexing of supplies, a presence at conferences such as the AAMC
and
> IAMSE, brochures and A-E cards for workshop leaders, teleconference
> support for our many committee meetings, and a variety of other u
ses.
Two thoughts here:
- Mand other material not? As someone not used to paying for such, and
likely having it come out of my own pocket, I'm not sure about
subsidizing a presence at AAMC or IAMSE (I had to Google what they
were) when they're used to paying for such materials.
- Perhaps have the annual meeting subsidize the website and other
expenses and not the other way around? Just about everyone is used to
paying for conferences. In the conferences I've been associated with
(I'm the Secretary-Treasurer of http://comp-econ.org ) we've found
that if we have more participants than we budgeted for, we do well
financially.
> We do not get support from any university or other organization for
the
> TBLC. Like Michael said, many of us have spent a considerable amount
of
> our own time and money contributing to the organization. We are not
> trying to make a profit. We are anxious for the organization to be
> valuable to its members, and are working hard so that it may be that
> way. We debate every decision regarding what to keep inside and
outside
> the "paywall," so we are sensitive to your feedback. I hope you can
> appreciate our perspective as well.
I do understand and as above I've indeed been in the very same boat.
Again, at least might http://www.teambasedlearning.org/benefits say
this?
The only time I've seen "Premium Membership" is at commercial sites, not
academic ones (I'm fine with that at commercial sites). Second, as
above,
perhaps the annual conference might help fund the website and other
expenses and not vice-versa.
Thanks for your time,
Bill
--
Bill Goffe
Department of Economics
SUNY Oswego, 416 Mahar Hall
Oswego, NY 13126
315-312-3444(v), 315-312-5444(f)
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