Good morning,
In our course we tell the students that the lowest of their RAT scores will be dropped. On any given day, the total score is 30%iRAT + 70%tRAT. This one "drop grade" covers any discussion of illness, travel, bad day, etc. and takes care of a lot of the issue raised by missing class. Also, if a student misses the iRAT, they do not receive credit for the tRAT. We find that this encourages students to be on time and streamlines the grading process in our class of 162.
Hope this helps!
Courtney E. Gamston, ScM, PharmD, BCPS
Discipline Chair for Pharmacology
Edward Via College of Osteopathic Medicine
Auburn Campus
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On Nov 23, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Michael Buck <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
I would agree with this fully. As this was my first foray into TBL I honestly never pre-planned for this to happen so it was my best resolution given the lack of syllabus policy. I am looking forward to suggestion of how to handle next time in my syllabus. I took this as a learning experience for me in using TBL. Interestingly, although attendance is not usually a significant concern, TBL actually reduced occasional absences that students at times almost think they are entitled to.
If some have syllabus policies for the RAP's I would love to hear them.
Michael Buck PhD, PT, ATC, Cert MDT, CSCS
Acting Associate Dean School of Health Sciences and Human Performance
Coordinator of the Ithaca Seminar Program
Clinical Associate Professor
Department of Physical Therapy
Ithaca College
Ithaca, New York 14850
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Subject: Re: Student missed a tRAT
My only comment is that we need to be careful not to imply that we classify illness the same as travel issues and sleeping-in. I agree with giving the tRAT score to the ill student, as Dr Buck did, it acknowledges the element of a team working and supporting each other, and illness is not within our control. The grade of zero for other cases would be my choice, particularly when dealing with healthcare students, whose professional development is important. Missing a test because you slept in, or got the time wrong deserves a penalty imposed and as I said for me a zero is appropriate, but certainly something that differentiates it from something like an illness – just my ten cents!!
Regards
Gavin Jenkins
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Subject: Re: Student missed a tRAT
Mike,
That makes good sense to me. It’s easy to defend because it doesn’t harm the student, and doesn’t provide unearned benefit. It turns out that our LMS can handle this easily as well.
Thank you,
Jim
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From: Michael Buck [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:23 AM
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>; Cropper, Jim
Subject: Re: Student missed a tRAT
Jim,
I am dealing with the same issue...once for illness, once for travel issues beyond ones control and once for oversleeping. I decided to handle all three the same. I did not think any of the three deserved the tRAT points as they were not present. Certainly, none deserved iRAT points. I am calculating their grade by reducing the denominator by the total points of the iRAT + tRAT. In this way it neither hurts or helps but increases the impact of other grading events.
Mike
Michael Buck PhD, PT, ATC, Cert MDT, CSCS
Acting Associate Dean School of Health Sciences and Human Performance
Coordinator of the Ithaca Seminar Program
Clinical Associate Professor
Department of Physical Therapy
Ithaca College
Ithaca, New York 14850
607-274-1936
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Subject: Student missed a tRAT
Hello all,
I need some advice on how to handle grading when a student misses a tRAT. In my TBL class, grades are given for the iRAT, and each student is given the tRAT score. I had two students miss tRATs. One student missed the tRAT because she thought the class was an hour later. The other student missed the tRAT due to illness (verified).
My initial decision was to give the tRAT score to the ill student and a 0 to the late student. We, the faculty, are discussing how to make a clear, fair policy for when a student misses the tRAT. There are several permutations of this scenario that could make it grayer than we would like. What is your opinion?
Thank you,
Jim
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