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Jim Sibley <[log in to unmask]>
Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:41:10 -0800
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Hi

I agree with Susan

When we transform our courses....often the only assessment instrument that
can give us longitudinal data is the old exams. We add to that perhaps some
survey of student attitudes/beliefs after the change in the new course
configuration.

Trouble is that old exams are often stuck at lower bloom's levels and really
don't measure all those OTHER cool things students learn in the TBL
classroom....interpersonal communication, self-regulation, metacognition

I still like to see these studies....but would love a study that does some
broader assessments of outcomes.....I am in the process of hatching a SoTL
project that might get us some better data on the effects of TBL

My two cents :-)

Jim


> From: Susan Hazel <[log in to unmask]>
> Organization: The University of Adelaide
> Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:26:58 +1030
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: "Comparing Direct Versus Indirect Measures of the Pedagogical
> Effectiveness of Team Testing"
> 
> Hi Bill,
> Thanks for this paper, the work looks well done from a brief read and does
> not support any advantage of team vs individual learning on subsequent
> scores in tests. However I feel that it ignores all of the other components
> that TBL teaches students- how to work in a team, communication, confidence,
> accountability etc. It was also a modified form of TBL used that didn't have
> application exercises, and the quality of the multiple choice questions
> can't be evaluated. Students who have done TBL may answer questions based on
> rote learning the same as those that haven't, but may in fact be much better
> at solving authentic problems.
> Just some thoughts from Down Under,
> Susan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Bill Goffe
> Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 10:26 AM
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> Subject: "Comparing Direct Versus Indirect Measures of the Pedagogical
> Effectiveness of Team Testing"
> 
> In the current edition of "The Teaching Professor," there is reference to
> "Comparing Direct Versus Indirect Measures of the Pedagogical
> Effectiveness of Team Testing," Journal of Marketing Education, December
> 2011, vol. 33, no. 3, pp. 348-358,
> http://jmd.sagepub.com/content/33/3/348.refs .
> 
> They test something like TBL and the results aren't very positive. Maybe of
> interest? I don't see many empirical papers like this, but maybe I'm not
> looking in the right places.
> 
>    - Bill
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