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I want to be clear that the class average is not 60% or below but I had
some INDIVIDUALS who consistently scored in that range. The 6 out of 10
is grade points; the raw scores are more like 18 or 20 out of 30. I
wanted to give them some extra credit work to make them correct their
mistakes but I couldn't figure out how to do this without adding a lot
more work for me or the them risking getting behind. I also didn't want
them to take copies of the test home.

My iRAT's and TRATS are the same test with items repeated 3 times on the
T-RATS to allow for teams to split their answers.



Fritz Laux wrote:
> Herb:
>
> Two suggestions:
>
> 1) It sounds like your RATs are easier than mine, in order to make the T-RAT
> work well, I want the I-RATs to be pretty difficult (to give the students
> something tough enough on the T-RATs so that they'll need to carefully
> reason their answers.  Thus, it's understood by the students that I will
> routinely "curve" or rescale their I-RAT scores.  If my mean grade for the
> I-RATs was much above 6 out of 10, then I'd be looking at T-RAT scores that
> were almost all 9's and 10's.
>
> 2) I've never had the individual component of the grade be less than 50% (if
> not usually at least 60%).  I want the teams to be there for learning but
> want the grade to be driven mostly by individual performance.  Thus, I set
> minimums for the percentage weights for individual performance activities.
> (This seems to be what Michaelsen does as well.)
>
> Best,
>
> Fritz
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Herb Coleman
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:17 PM
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> Subject: Re: iRAT/gRAT
>
> While we're on the subject does anyone have a plan or correction for
> people who constantly do poorly on the iRAT but then benefit from the
> group on the T-RAT's. I had students last semester who consistently got
> 6 out of 10 points or less on every iRAT. However since the class gave
> more weight to T-RAT's they were able to offset their low individual
> score with the higher team score (the lowest usually being 12 out of 15
> points).
>
> Juli Dunn wrote:
>
>> Can anyone suggest better names for the readiness assessment tests?
>> For whatever reason I would like something that doesn't spell RAT. I
>> have played with iRAQ (other issues) and gRAQ. Any suggestions woudl
>> be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Juli
>>
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Austin Community College
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