I want to be clear that the class average is not 60% or below but I had some INDIVIDUALS who consistently scored in that range. The 6 out of 10 is grade points; the raw scores are more like 18 or 20 out of 30. I wanted to give them some extra credit work to make them correct their mistakes but I couldn't figure out how to do this without adding a lot more work for me or the them risking getting behind. I also didn't want them to take copies of the test home. My iRAT's and TRATS are the same test with items repeated 3 times on the T-RATS to allow for teams to split their answers. Fritz Laux wrote: > Herb: > > Two suggestions: > > 1) It sounds like your RATs are easier than mine, in order to make the T-RAT > work well, I want the I-RATs to be pretty difficult (to give the students > something tough enough on the T-RATs so that they'll need to carefully > reason their answers. Thus, it's understood by the students that I will > routinely "curve" or rescale their I-RAT scores. If my mean grade for the > I-RATs was much above 6 out of 10, then I'd be looking at T-RAT scores that > were almost all 9's and 10's. > > 2) I've never had the individual component of the grade be less than 50% (if > not usually at least 60%). I want the teams to be there for learning but > want the grade to be driven mostly by individual performance. Thus, I set > minimums for the percentage weights for individual performance activities. > (This seems to be what Michaelsen does as well.) > > Best, > > Fritz > -----Original Message----- > From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > Of Herb Coleman > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:17 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: iRAT/gRAT > > While we're on the subject does anyone have a plan or correction for > people who constantly do poorly on the iRAT but then benefit from the > group on the T-RAT's. I had students last semester who consistently got > 6 out of 10 points or less on every iRAT. However since the class gave > more weight to T-RAT's they were able to offset their low individual > score with the higher team score (the lowest usually being 12 out of 15 > points). > > Juli Dunn wrote: > >> Can anyone suggest better names for the readiness assessment tests? >> For whatever reason I would like something that doesn't spell RAT. I >> have played with iRAQ (other issues) and gRAQ. Any suggestions woudl >> be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Juli >> >> ** >> Julia L Dunn, AT/L, MA >> Director of Academic Resources >> Associate Professor >> Whitman College >> Memorial Hall 205B >> 345 Boyer Avenue >> Walla Walla, WA 99362 >> [log in to unmask] >> 509.527.5013 (office) >> 509.301.6824 (cell) >> >> >> > > -- Herb Coleman,Director Instructional Computing and Technology Adjunct Professor of Psychology Austin Community College Highland Business Center 5930 Middle Fiskville Rd. Austin, TX 78752 [log in to unmask] 512-223-7746 ************************************************* “I, and every other professor on this campus, are here to help you to find, take back, and keep your righteous mind.” ---Professor Melvin Tolson from the motion picture "The Great Debaters" *************************************************