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In our 1200 student Introduction to Engineering We do IRATs online before class - mostly simple recall then do 5 question TRAT -mostly light application question Using a timed PowerPoint - so TRAT is over in 7.5 minutes with distributing and collecting cards and discussion we are done in 15 minutes



Jim



Jim and Amanda from home



Here is a quick reply from my iPad



On Feb 4, 2022, at 3:36 PM, Herbert Coleman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:





So I just responded to my student evals from the fall.  As usual, the more vocal students railed against the RAP.  Even though we spent two weeks going over the syllabus and I explained the rationale for both the RAP and formative assessment, they still questioned the testing before lecturing (btw I do provide a brief study guide with instructions like "be able to tell the difference between...").



I explain the rationale to the powers that be and the students even parrot that I don't lecture over what they already know.  In the spirit of academic freedom, I feel I have cover.



I was thinking the other day about another idea.  So first let me say that my IRQ/TRQ's (i label them quizzes to try to reduce the tension) are prolly too long.  I have reduced some to 20 items but 25-30 is my norm.  I'm totally convinced 30 is too long because they barely finish in a single class period.



For some reason, during the last RAP, I flashed on the idea of a mini RAP.  What if the IRQ/TRQ was only 5 questions? the individual would take less than 10 min.  The team would take less than 30 min. including appeals.  I could review and even do a mini Application Exercise within the class period.  This might be one way to go in deep on a particular topic.  Has anyone tried something similar?  I have when I did workshops for faculty on TBL but I haven't with a regular class.   Any thoughts?



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Austin Community College

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