Bob,
Typically what are your timeframes for your iRATs; i.e., how long do they
have to take the iRAT, how long before the class meets do they have access
to it, and so forth?
Thanks,
Bill
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Robert Brekken <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I have been using out of class iRATS online the past couple of years as
> well, and feel that they are working well. I limit the time period, and
> randomize the questions in order to keep the students honest. They do not
> see results of their iRATS until after the tRATS are completed in class.
> With the time limit I try to make sure they do not have time to look up the
> answers (but a good student may have time to check an answer or two). I do
> give the students more questions in the iRAT (20) than I do for the tRAT
> (10). I find that the results of the iRATS are usually in line with grades
> on other assignments and exams.
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Brekken
>
> Department of History
> Central Lakes College
> 501 West College Drive
> Brainerd, MN 56401
> 218-855-8190
>
>
> >>> Larry Michaelsen <[log in to unmask]> 8/30/2012 8:27 PM >>>
> Hello All,
>
> Gail's experience is exactly the opposite of most of those who have tried
> out-of-class iRATs. I called her right after I saw her post and we're
> working on a joint post in which we will try to sort out why they have
> worked for her but, not others. Stay tuned. I have the feeling that we will
> all learn something from the discussion as it proceeds.
>
> Larry
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:10 PM, FEIGENBAUM, GAIL <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Hello, All!
> >
> > I have been using online iRATs, and then have the students do the gRATs
> > when they get to class. Began to do this about a year and a half of go
> in
> > making the move to a hybrid format. It has been working well. Per Sunay
> > Palsole @ UTEP, students have only 20 minutes for the iRATs....and the
> > iRATs are open a limited amount of time.
> >
> > Grade spread is the same. gRAT discussion is just as lively, if not more
> > so. I have quite a diversity of students......no HS degrees to phd's
> > coming back to re-train for a new field. My spoecial needs students also
> > benefit....they say that they don't feel the pressure that they feel in
> > class when everyone is working faster than they are.
> >
> >
> > Gail
> >
> > Gail Feigenbaum, RN, PhD
> > Nursing Assistant Instructor
> > School of Health, Wellness, Public Safety
> > Central New Mexico Community College
> > Office - Main Campus, ST 10A
> > Office Phone - 505-224-4000, ext 50163
> > Cell/Message Phone - 505-463-2010
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> > ________________________________________
> > From: Team-Based Learning [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > Preast, Vanessa A [SOE] [[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:12 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Individual RATs completed outside of class and then team RATs in
> > class?
> >
> > Hello all you brilliant TBLers,
> >
> > I was wondering if you could provide me your thoughts on the pros/cons?
> > My statistics class had a heart-to-heart on the quantity of work in my
> > class and we were brainstorming ways to help with time estimates (me) and
> > time management (students). One student suggested that we move the iRATs
> > out of class and just do the tRATs in class. Another student brought up
> > the point that if we move the iRATs out of class, that doesn't help the
> too
> > long to complete homework problem since that would either just add to the
> > homework or displace some potentially important practice activities
> outside
> > of class.
> >
> > Anyway, I am having a really hard time coming up with the pros and cons
> > for having the iRATs out of class and I told my class I'd see what your
> > experience has been and I'd get back to them on that one. What are your
> > ideas or experiences with iRATs outside of class?
> >
> > Best,
> > Vanessa
> >
> >
> > _____________________
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