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That¡¯s it exactly Jim! The ¡®right first time¡¯ has to be worth it. And the marks, once converted to %, have to feel right. I hadn¡¯t heard of the 4-3-2-1 approach before, until seeing Roy¡¯s email. I think you¡¯ve hit the essential ¡°con¡± on the head with your response!

Josie



Dr Josie A Fraser

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Associate Dean for Learning & Teaching, Faculty of Life Sciences



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From: <Sibley>, James Edward <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>

Date: Friday, 16 January 2015 15:54

To: Josie Fraser <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>, "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>

Subject: Re: tRAT Grading



Hi



We use 4-2-1-0 on 4 distractor cards and 8-4-2-1-0 on five distractors cards



The 4-3-2-1-0¡¦makes me uncomfortable ¡¦.a student could not know a single right answer¡¦but get them on the second try and still get 75% on test¡¦.that just feels wrong to me



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From: Josie Fraser <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>

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Date: Friday, January 16, 2015 at 7:08 AM

To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>

Subject: Re: tRAT Grading



We use 4 - 2 - 1 - 0

We have A-D (4 option) MCQs for our tRATs, so I couldn©öt justify giving 1

mark to the students who have exhausted all the options.

If you have A-E then I can see 4, 3, 2, 1 (0) making more sense.

I wonder whether one gets more discussion with the 4/2/1/0 option. The

fact that getting it right first time is worth double the points may

encourage students to spend more time thinking/discussing their preferred

response and coming to a proper consensus. But that is just a gut feeling

- I wonder if anyone has tried to see whether it actually makes any

difference? Does anyone know of data on this?

Josie ?



Dr Josie A Fraser

Senior Lecturer in Pharmacology, Bradford School of Pharmacy

Associate Dean for Learning & Teaching, Faculty of Life Sciences



School of Pharmacy

Faculty of Life Sciences

University of Bradford

Bradford

West Yorkshire

BD7 1DP



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On 16/01/2015 14:05, "DrL" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:



Hi,



What is the most popular grading system for tRATs?  One point off for

each wrong answer (4,3,2,1)  or reduce by half for each wrong answer

(4,2,1,0)?  Other methods?  What are the pro and cons?





R Roy Lindquist, M.D.

University of Connecticut

School of Medicine



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