Interestingly, I was writing a response to Jim when this came in. Thanks, Jess for the prompt.
My response to Jim was along the lines of students need knowledge and also the skills to be able to apply the knowledge in practice. For most disciplines this rules out "lecturing". You simply can't pick up the necessary skills through a lecture based approach. Couple this approach with good assessment, and activity design, and you are on the way to active learning...
I am in the midst of helping some of our staff write a new capstone business course. The first word I am eliminating from the draft is "lecture". Facilitator lead active small group and other forms of learning (including active gamified online learning) will always trump the lecture.
I recently completed Harvard HBX Core as I wanted to see their approach. Their gamified online model, mixed with content, video snippets of the academics illustrating key points, and lots of interactive activities to reinforce the concepts (and allow simulated application), was one of the best learning experiences I have ever had. It made me active, participative (to a point), and simply had a flow that I have rarely experienced in any form of learning before.
Fortunately, I think this may mean the writing is on the wall for "the lecture". There are simply too many better options (which students are now demanding in a lot of circumstances). As you will still have a job building the learning experiences, and facilitating the learning as it happens, what is really lost to yourself as an individual by not lecturing?
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Andrew Chambers
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From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Boersma, Jess
Sent: Tuesday, 20 October 2015 12:19 PM
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Subject: Re: reaction to NYT article
Well said, Jim, if I may.
We've brought speakers speakers on course design (Fink), critical thinking (Brookfield), collaborative approaches (C. Davidson), and many more in the last two-three years alone, and are always looking for new, evidence-based approaches to engaging students so that they become the producers. Our own Tricia Kelley was a U.S. Professor of the Year http://www.usprofessorsoftheyear.org
Why? Because she and we embrace applied learning. While I admire a great storyteller, I will not bring a sage-on-the-stage lecturer to campus. Full stop.
Best to all,
Jess
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On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Sibley, James Edward <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi
You will always get articles like this
A life of personal experiences where the norm was being lectured to (we teach the way we were taught)......beliefs that any system that had me rise to the top must be good
The article ignores.....all the literature, research, and evidence points to lectures are used too much....not that lectures are bad....just they are over-used....short lectures for the right reason at the right time are great.....but the idea that I can learn to synthesize by listening is outrageous.....facts can be transmitted by lecture....but knowledge can't
Countering this argument is at the centre of a faculty developer work
Jim
Jim Sibley
Sorry for brief message -sent from my iPad
On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Wickham, Gerald <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
The article seems Cartesian or dualist and also takes John Henry Newman's quote out of context.
Finest regards,
Gerry
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University of Illinois College of Medicine at Peoria
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On Oct 19, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Boersma, Jess <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi, All,
My pedagogical training as a graduate student at Emory in Spanish language and culture, and my subsequent work as a faculty member and administrator have been almost entirely focused on student-centered learning techniques. Within the language classroom, for example, lecturing would get the professor very poor marks on his/her peer teaching evaluations. Upper-level courses in the languages, as well as in History, English, Philosophy and Religion, among others, all value small group discussion and problem solving over lecture.
Best wishes,
Jess
Jess M. Boersma, Ph.D.
Director of ETEAL<http://uncw.edu/QEP/index.html>
Director of Team for Interdisciplinary Global Research<http://uncw.edu/tigr/index.html>
Associate Professor of Spanish
Foreign Languages & Literatures
University of North Carolina Wilmington
601 South College Road
Wilmington, NC 28403-5954
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From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Smith
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 4:53 PM
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: reaction to NYT article
The author makes an argument for lecturing in the humanities. I would particularly like to hear comments from teachers in those disciplines.
Regards,
David Smith
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Nicholas DiFonzo <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hello TBL-ers. Our dean recently sent the link below which is a recent piece arguing in favor of the traditional 'lecture' as a valuable pedagogical approach to teaching. I am curious what people think about it: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/opinion/sunday/lecture-me-really.html
Nicholas DiFonzo, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology
Department of Psychology
18 Lomb Memorial Drive
Room 1-2363
Rochester Institute of Technology
Rochester, NY 14623 USA
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Phone: 585-475-2907<tel:585-475-2907>
Skype: nicholas.difonzo
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Rumor Psychology: Social & Organizational Approaches<http://www.rumorpsychology.com/>
The Watercooler Effect: A Psychologist Explores the Extraordinary Power of Rumors<http://www.thewatercoolereffect.com/>
Rumor-Gossip-Research Google Group<https://groups.google.com/d/forum/rumor-gossip-research>
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On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Sibley, James Edward <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi
You will always get articles like this
A life of personal experiences where the norm was being lectured to (we teach the way we were taught)......beliefs that any system that had me rise to the top must be good
The article ignores.....all the literature, research, and evidence points to lectures are used too much....not that lectures are bad....just they are over-used....short lectures for the right reason at the right time are great.....but the idea that I can learn to synthesize by listening is outrageous.....facts can be transmitted by lecture....but knowledge can't
Countering this argument is at the centre of a faculty developer work
Jim
Jim Sibley
Sorry for brief message -sent from my iPad
On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Wickham, Gerald <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
The article seems Cartesian or dualist and also takes John Henry Newman's quote out of context.
Finest regards,
Gerry
Gerald P. Wickham, Ed.D.
Assistant Dean, Medical Education & Evaluation
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Peoria
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On Oct 19, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Boersma, Jess <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi, All,
My pedagogical training as a graduate student at Emory in Spanish language and culture, and my subsequent work as a faculty member and administrator have been almost entirely focused on student-centered learning techniques. Within the language classroom, for example, lecturing would get the professor very poor marks on his/her peer teaching evaluations. Upper-level courses in the languages, as well as in History, English, Philosophy and Religion, among others, all value small group discussion and problem solving over lecture.
Best wishes,
Jess
Jess M. Boersma, Ph.D.
Director of ETEAL<http://uncw.edu/QEP/index.html>
Director of Team for Interdisciplinary Global Research<http://uncw.edu/tigr/index.html>
Associate Professor of Spanish
Foreign Languages & Literatures
University of North Carolina Wilmington
601 South College Road
Wilmington, NC 28403-5954
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From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Smith
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 4:53 PM
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: reaction to NYT article
The author makes an argument for lecturing in the humanities. I would particularly like to hear comments from teachers in those disciplines.
Regards,
David Smith
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Nicholas DiFonzo <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hello TBL-ers. Our dean recently sent the link below which is a recent piece arguing in favor of the traditional 'lecture' as a valuable pedagogical approach to teaching. I am curious what people think about it: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/opinion/sunday/lecture-me-really.html
Nicholas DiFonzo, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology
Department of Psychology
18 Lomb Memorial Drive
Room 1-2363
Rochester Institute of Technology
Rochester, NY 14623 USA
[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>*
Phone: 585-475-2907<tel:585-475-2907>
Skype: nicholas.difonzo
Faculty Website<http://www.rit.edu/cla/psychology/faculty/difonzo>*Personal Website<http://www.professornick.com/>
Rumor Psychology: Social & Organizational Approaches<http://www.rumorpsychology.com/>
The Watercooler Effect: A Psychologist Explores the Extraordinary Power of Rumors<http://www.thewatercoolereffect.com/>
Rumor-Gossip-Research Google Group<https://groups.google.com/d/forum/rumor-gossip-research>
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