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Also, a combination of IF-AT and proportional weights on the different
answers could be done electronically. It could work like this:
  1. The teams selects the weights on the different answers (20% on A, 80%
     on B)
  2. Select one answer and get feedback; repeat as necessary.

I wonder if this could be integrated into a CMS like Angel or Blackboard?

      - Bill


Jim said:

>    Dan Robinson at UT Austin does indeed have a PC version of IF-AT
> 
>    Guess we could have at least one student per team bring a laptop.....hope
>    our wireless network can take it
> 
>    The most popular clicker...iClicker has no mechanism for feedback....so
>    they couldn't be tweaked to do this
> 
>    I still think there is something fun, social, engaging with the scratch
>    off....that might be lost on a computer :-)
> 
>    jim
> 
>    On 09-09-17 8:43 AM, "Meeuwsen, Harry" <[1][log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>      Were the folks at UT-Austin not developing an online IF-AT system 2
>      years ago?
>      Has that gone anywhere?
> 
>      Harry Meeuwsen
>      From: Team-Based Learning [[2]mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>      Behalf Of Gary D Lynne
>      Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:37 AM
>      To: [3][log in to unmask]
>      Subject: Re: Inexpensive Scoring Machine
>      Me, too, wishing there was an IF AT in an electronic form... for use
>      both with clickers in class, and especially for use in on-line, distance
>      ed teaching (am teaching a distance ed course, and would like to try TBL
>      in that realm).
> 
>      Gary D. Lynne, Professor
>      Department of Agricultural Economics and
>      School of Natural Resources
>      103B Filley
>      University of Nebraska-Lincoln
>      Lincoln, NE 68583-0922
>      USA
>      Website: [4]http://www.agecon.unl.edu/facultystaff/directory/lynne.html
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>      "We are always only one failed generational transfer of knowledge away
>      from darkest ignorance" (Herman Daly)
>      "We do not just have our own interests. We share interests with others.
>      Empathy is neither altruistic nor self-interested. It rather exemplifies
>      the implicit solidarity of human nature" (Robert Solomon)
> 
>      Sandy Cook ---09/17/2009 10:29:45 AM---We use clickers too and find it
>      great.
>        Sandy Cook <[5][log in to unmask]>
>      Sent by: Team-Based Learning <[6][log in to unmask]>
>      09/17/2009 10:29 AM
> 
>  Please respond to
> 
>      Sandy Cook <[7][log in to unmask]>
>          To
>       [8][log in to unmask]
>          cc
>          Subject
>       Re: Inexpensive Scoring Machine
> 
> 
>      We use clickers too and find it great.
> 
>      What I would now like is an electronic IF-AT process that can use the
>      clickers - instant feedback, variable scoring, and able to adjust
>      according to the actual answers that we have - rather than doing a
>      coding sheet for the various forms.
> 
>      Sandy
> 
>      PLEASE UPDATE YOUR ADDRESS BOOK - [9][log in to unmask]
>      **************************************************
>      Sandy Cook, PhD
>      Associate Dean for Curriculum Development
>      Duke/NUS Graduate School of Medicine
> 
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: Team-Based Learning on behalf of Gary D Lynne
>      Sent: Thu 9/17/2009 11:08 PM
>      To: [10][log in to unmask]
>      Subject: Re: Inexpensive Scoring Machine
> 
>      Jim and others, re: paper scanners:
> 
>      Am curious as to why scanners are being used rather than clickers? Pros
>      and cons? We, for the first time last spring, used the "homework"
>      feature (i.e. students enter their RAT answers during class as an
>      in-class
>      homework) of the PRS Response clicker system, and it works great, in a
>      class of 50-students. Instant grading by the computer, and a gradebook
>      produced automatically in Excel format. Also, no Departmental/teaching
>      budget cost: Students already have the clickers, because they are being
>      used on campus in the larger general ed courses (like chemistry).
> 
>      Gary D. Lynne, Professor
>      Department of Agricultural Economics and
>      School of Natural Resources
>      103B Filley
>      University of Nebraska-Lincoln
>      Lincoln, NE 68583-0922
>      USA
>      Website: [11]http://www.agecon.unl.edu/facultystaff/directory/lynne.html
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>      darkest ignorance" (Herman Daly)
>      "We do not just have our own interests. We share interests with others.
>      Empathy is neither altruistic nor self-interested. It rather exemplifies
>      the implicit solidarity of human nature" (Robert Solomon)
> 
>      Jim Sibley
>      <[12][log in to unmask]
>      CA> To
>      Sent by: [13][log in to unmask]
>      Team-Based cc
>      Learning
>      <TEAMLEARNING-L@L Subject
>      IST.OLT.UBC.CA> Re: Inexpensive Scoring Machine
> 
>      09/17/2009 09:56
>      AM
> 
>      Please respond to
>      Jim Sibley
>      <[14][log in to unmask]
>      CA>
> 
>      The Apperson scanner are inexpensive and work great.....we can easily
>      scan
>      160 tests while the students are doing the team test (probably could
>      score
>      500-600 in the time)
> 
>      I like that you don't have to attach it to a computer in class....we
>      print
>      tally and item analysis cards right after scanning and have the
>      aggregate
>      results to inform our mini-lecture....and office rescans the forms later
>      to
>      generate the excel
> 
>      I just order my fifth scanner for my Faculty
> 
>      Haven't tried their new Apperson scanner with a feeder....would be more
>      convenient...but uses different forms than the Advantage scanners I
>      already
>      have
> 
>      jim
> 
>      On 09-09-16 3:53 PM, "Herb Coleman" <[15][log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>      > I also wonder what people think of using Gradecam to grade the iRATs
>      and
>      > T-RAT's.
>      >
>      > [16]http://edtech247.pbworks.com/GradeCam
>      >
>      > Bill Goffe wrote:
>      >> For those who like to score RATs in class,
>      >> [17]http://appersonedu.com/scanners/grademastertestscanner.aspx looks
>      like a
>      >> possibility. I don't have a connection to them; I happened to see
>      their
>      >> add in Science News and they don't seem to appear in the FAQ:
>      >> [18]http://teambasedlearning.apsc.ubc.ca/?page_id=72 .
>      >>
>      >> - Bill
>      >>
>      >>
> 
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