Hi Vanessa
The way I see it, the IRAT/TRAT process is about assessing readiness to learn and apply the key course concepts to real problems. So readiness testing should not take much time and should not be the focus of the session. However, as it counts towards final grades, and as we expect our students to come prepared having accessed study materials and online lectures guided by intended learning outcomes out of class time, we keep the whole assessment aspect within class time.
In our 2 hour post graduate critical care nursing TBL classes, we have 15 minutes for IRATS, 20 minutes for TRATS and then the rest of the time on the application exercises.
As it is so difficult to write really good material, we chose to keep the whole RAT process in class to keep the materials reusable.
regards
Elizabeth
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Subject: Re: Individual RATs completed outside of class and then team RATs in class?
Vanessa-
To be fair I'm just starting out. But, I'm using TBL in a math course (linear algebra) with iRATs outside of class like you describe - and I got the idea from somebody on the listserv who was using that method in a statistics course.
My instinct (and this is just an instinct, mind you) is that if you're worried about them having too much work, you could shorten the homework assignments - after all, they're doing some work now in class that they would have traditionally done at home.
That's just my $0.02.
Best,
Kalman Nanes
Lecturer
Dept. of Math and Stat
University of Maryland - Baltimore County
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Preast, Vanessa A [SOE] <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hello all you brilliant TBLers,
I was wondering if you could provide me your thoughts on the pros/cons? My statistics class had a heart-to-heart on the quantity of work in my class and we were brainstorming ways to help with time estimates (me) and time management (students). One student suggested that we move the iRATs out of class and just do the tRATs in class. Another student brought up the point that if we move the iRATs out of class, that doesn't help the too long to complete homework problem since that would either just add to the homework or displace some potentially important practice activities outside of class.
Anyway, I am having a really hard time coming up with the pros and cons for having the iRATs out of class and I told my class I'd see what your experience has been and I'd get back to them on that one. What are your ideas or experiences with iRATs outside of class?
Best,
Vanessa
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Vanessa Preast, DVM PhD
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Iowa State University
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