At UIC, we tried using clickers in TBLs for Medical Genetics with ~180
students. My personal opinion and based on how it went this past spring, I
would not use them again for attendance or grades. I don't think they are
reliable enough to be used for that purpose. There were many times when 10
or so students didn't have their device, or the batteries were dead, or
something else went wrong, and it ended up causing a lot of extra work and
distraction. They are great for taking the pulse of the class as Judi says.
Max Anderson
UIC College of Medicine
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Bradetich, Judith <[log in to unmask]
> wrote:
> I'm currently teaching a class of 100, using clickers and TBL. Clickers
> are great for asking general questions and looking at immediate responses
> to prompts, but I find using them very frustrating for having a discussion,
> as I can't tell which team voted which way. Clickers are great for opinion
> surveys, lousy for in-depth discussion - unless someone knows a way to
> identify who voted which way...
>
> Judi Bradetich, M.S., M.M.
> Lecturer, Development and Family Studies
> Dept. of Educational Psychology
> University of North Texas
> ________________________________________
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> Bill Goffe [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:06 PM
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> Subject: Largest TBL Classes?
>
> I'm giving a presentation about TBL to our STEM group in a few weeks. I'll
> likely use the presentation package that Jim Sibley put together (thanks!)
> but
> there is an obvious question that will likely come up that I don't know
> the answer to. What is the largest size class one can use TBL in, assuming
> you have a sufficient number of people in the classroom to help run it?
> Class sizes of ~350 are common here and one classroom seats up to 700.
>
> On "a sufficient number of people in the classroom to help," our STEM
> group has an active "Learning Assistant" program where undergrads assist
> with Peer Instruction and similar tasks. In some 500 student classes there
> are 30 learning assistants. The semester before they go into the classroom
> they go through a 1.5 hour course. It is modeled after the LA program at
> the University of Colorado at Boulder.
>
> On large class TBL I'm thinking that teams could report out with clickers.
> Perhaps the most important aspect is the ability for LAs and the
> instructor to be able talk to teams during class. Thus, every third row
> might be vacated to ease access. But, that's more a guess than something
> based on experience. Also, I'm thinking that in such a large class it
> might be difficult to get a sufficient number of students to explain their
> team's thinking.
>
> Thoughts? Experiences?
>
> - Bill
>
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