Hello, I have similar questions to Karla and wonder also about the volume/type/alignment of preparation work? I also wonder if you found your sweet spot for the number of RAP questions the first time around? A single class period for my program is 3 hours; I am guessing yours may not be - do you have an hour? Best, Liz Liz Winter, Ph.D., LSW Clinical Assistant Professor Child Welfare Resource Center University of Pittsburgh School of Social Work 403 East Winding Hill Road Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 NOTICE: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by person or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From: Team-Based Learning <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Kubitz, Karla Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2022 4:00 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Mini RAP fail? Hi Herbert, Would it be possible to share your learning outcomes, RAT questions, and application exercise (offline if you're worried about test security)? I'd be better able to provide suggestions if I knew a bit more about what you were doing. Karla Karla Kubitz Department of Kinesiology Towson University 8000 York Rd Towson, MD 21252 410-704-3168 (phone) 410-704-3912 (fax) ________________________________ From: Team-Based Learning <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Herbert Coleman <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2022 3:25 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Subject: Mini RAP fail? So I experimented with the Mini TBL process where in a single class period students complete a short iRAT, T-RAT, any appeals, I review every question. Then they do an application exercise. The first one went ok. I just forgot to give them a 15 min time limit on the application exercise and one team spent way too much time researching their answer. On the second try I decided to increase the number of questions from 5 to 7. I have several students get none or only 1 correct. The highest score was 4/7. I had provided them with a review that told them what to focus on and yet this was the result. Needless to say their T-RAT scores were lower as well but for most items they got it correct on the second try. When this happens class wide I can't help but feel I did something wrong. Any thoughts? -- Herb Coleman, Ph.D Adjunct Professor of Psychology and Student Development RETIRED--Dir. Campus Technology Services Austin Community College [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> (512) 223-1790 ext. 22162 ************************************************************************************************************ "Keep working, keep striving, never give up. Fall down 7 times get up 8. Without commitment, you'll never start. But more importantly, without consistency, you'll never finish. Ease is a greater threat to progress than hardship. So, keep moving, keep growing, keep learning. See you at work." ¯ Denzel Washington, ************************************************************************************************************ ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the TEAMLEARNING-L list, please click here.<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.ubc.ca%2Fscripts%2Fwa.exe%3FSUBED1%3DTEAMLEARNING-L%26A%3D1&data=05%7C01%7Ceaw44%40pitt.edu%7C958ac19295d9409ac82308da27bfbbd1%7C9ef9f489e0a04eeb87cc3a526112fd0d%7C1%7C0%7C637866001699072280%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jG3812FScxSyMwqAKG3sGS8qEChSNoB4NBzkXxRDRdg%3D&reserved=0> Further information about the UBC Mailing Lists service can be found on the UBC IT website. ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the TEAMLEARNING-L list, please click here.<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.ubc.ca%2Fscripts%2Fwa.exe%3FSUBED1%3DTEAMLEARNING-L%26A%3D1&data=05%7C01%7Ceaw44%40pitt.edu%7C958ac19295d9409ac82308da27bfbbd1%7C9ef9f489e0a04eeb87cc3a526112fd0d%7C1%7C0%7C637866001699072280%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jG3812FScxSyMwqAKG3sGS8qEChSNoB4NBzkXxRDRdg%3D&reserved=0> Further information about the UBC Mailing Lists service can be found on the UBC IT website. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the TEAMLEARNING-L list, please click the following link: http://lists.ubc.ca/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=TEAMLEARNING-L&A=1 Further information about the UBC Mailing Lists service can be found on the UBC IT website.