Hi Herbert,

This is my sense too. In an online environment I have informed students
that they can use anything to solve problems and answer questions but that
I draw the line at copying and pasting. They still must use their own
words. Checking for plagiarism is relatively easy…

I have tried for many years to design quiz and exam questions that are
application based and context specific. But those are difficult to produce
and of course once they are released, they cannot be used again because
they are immediately shared. So one thing that has changed with going
online for me is the amount of time I spend reworking questions and
problems so that they are not easily Googleable. Pre-googling exams or
assignments that contribute to students’ finals grades has added
significant time to my teaching preparation. I think that is just the way
it is until I am again in an environment where I can control what students
have access to during an exam.

On the other hand, maybe this is just the way we should always be
administering our exams because this is how the real world works: we use
whatever resource we have on hand. Maybe we should be examining the same
way. But it does mean then that I have to allocate a lot more time (a lot!)
toward exam preparation so that the answers to my questions are not easily
copy and pastable from a question database or exam bank on a “homework”
website that is readily available online.

Neil

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:46 PM Herbert Coleman <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Hey, Neil.  I'd like to quote a K-12 teacher who does a lot of technology
> development and training, Alice Keeler, who says, "the Internet has won."
> I realized a while back that there's almost no way to effectively block
> students from using the internet so I've flipped the script and demanded
> that they use it.  One interesting thing was during the TRAT they're not
> supposed to use resources but I overheard  a student giving a definition of
> a term that she was clearly reading from a source.  Then I heard the team
> discuss it and guess what? They still got it wrong!!!!  Although they had
> the information they could not properly apply it.  I still ask them not to
> use resources and have them close their text or other windows when I see it
> but I don't stress about it. I don't even require the lockdown browser
> anymore and guess what; test score ranges have not changed.  I just assumed
> that some would leverage the technology to their favor and they may have
> but I haven't seen it on a large scale. In fact, in about a 3rd of the
> classes test averages have gone down.  I usually have one or two students
> get a perfect score on one or two IRATs.  The last two semesters, I've had
> none. I think designing questions that ask them to apply the concept is
> key.
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:38 AM Neil Haave <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> My experience has been virtually identical to Herbert's. I have used Zoom
>> breakout rooms to great effect for TBL team activities. It has made me
>> rethink is the value of having all team activities graded and count toward
>> students' final grades. I don't think that anymore as a result of the
>> pandemic. Some, certainly, but not all. Trying to mitigate students' stress
>> during the pandemic made me rethink this. That and the ability of students
>> to look things up on the internet while in their breakout rooms really
>> forced me to rethink this.
>>
>> It is still a work in progress but I think the pandemic allowed me to
>> think how to implement TBL more effectively. How those changes will
>> manifest themselves in a fully F2F classroom is something that I am still
>> thinking through but I think it will be better than pre-pandemic.
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 10:36 PM Herbert Coleman <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> During the pandemic, teaching remotely, my TBL tended to flourish.  The
>>> breakout rooms in Zoom allowed teams to work in isolation but also allowed
>>> me to pop in and out (like my usual walking around the room) and often they
>>> forgot or didn't realize I was there.  I did have to create my own app for
>>> the TRAT but it's been great and I continue to use it even in my F2F
>>> classes. It did challenge me to think about how we do each of the parts of
>>> TBL and explore better ways.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 12:54 PM Gillette, Meghan T [HD FS] <
>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> For those of you at institutions that have faculty or instructor
>>>> learning communities for those who use TBL in their classes, have you found
>>>> that participation has increased or waned during/since the pandemic? Have
>>>> you seen any fluctuation in engagement in these learning communities in any
>>>> capacity since the pandemic, or even prior to the pandemic?  Similarly, has
>>>> anyone published about this recently?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for any insight,
>>>>
>>>> Meghan Gillette, MA, PhD
>>>>
>>>> Associate Teaching Professor, Human Development and Family Studies
>>>>
>>>> Faculty Affiliate, Center for Excellence in Learning and Teaching
>>>>
>>>> Iowa State University
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> Without commitment, you’ll never start. But more importantly, without
> consistency, you’ll never finish.
> Ease is a greater threat to progress than hardship.  So, keep moving,
> keep growing, keep learning.
> See you at work.
>
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