I absolutely agree with Graciela to not have teams of 3. I always start with 5-7 per team and sometimes end up with 4 on a team if someone drops. Teams of 4, in my experience, often struggle because they don’t have the same resources as 5 or 6, and if one person is absent, three is a very small team. I’d recommend erring on the side of possibly too large than too small. Molly Espey, Professor John E. Walker Dept. of Economics Clemson University Clemson, SC 29634 [signature_1228509628] From: Team-Based Learning <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Graciela Elizalde-Utnick <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: Graciela Elizalde-Utnick <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 4:02 PM To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Peer evaluation in really small classes I wouldn’t have teams of 3. Stick to 4 or 5. If someone is absent, 3 becomes 2. And with 4 you will have three peer eval forms. I don’t change the form and the students provide constructive feedback. The teams become cohesive and they don’t often want to write something that the team member can improve but they do it. We discuss the importance of this feedback etc. I hope this helps. Graciela Elizalde-Utnick, Ph.D. Bilingual Specialization Coordinator, School Counseling & School Psychology Department of School Psychology, Counseling, & Leadership 1107 James Hall School of Education Brooklyn College – CUNY 2900 Bedford Avenue Brooklyn, NY 11210 718.951.5876 Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2020, at 1:43 PM, John Gotwals <[log in to unmask]> wrote: CAUTION: This email is from outside BC, so examine it closely before opening attachments or clicking on links Looking over all of your responses brought up another question: When you use TBL in courses with small #s of students, should you modify your approach to peer evaluation? If teams only have 3-4 students each, will students be less likely to provide high quality/critical peer evaluations because the degree of anonymity is lower (i..e, it's easier for the receiver to figure out where the feedback came from)? If modifications are needed, what would you suggest? Thanks again, John On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 at 13:06, John Gotwals <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Thanks so much everyone for the tips and guidance. It's really helpful. Apart from the innovative approach to teaching/learning, one of the best things about TBL is the tremendously supportive community! Cheers, John On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 at 12:45, Neil Haave <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Hi Bill, What a great approach (to leave while students discuss)! I wonder if this would also be a good approach when there are only two teams? When I was doing TBL over Zoom during the Winter term, I started out by visiting each team's breakout room just to check in while they were discussing. But then when I realized that students could call me in from the main Zoom room if they had a query or clarification, I stopped doing the roaming. I think that worked better - only checking in when called upon. Still not sure... I may try it both ways again this fall. Teaching and learning are so context-dependent that there probably isn't a single approach that is always the best for this aspect of TBL. Cheers, Neil Neil Haave, PhD Professor, Biology<https://www.augustana.ualberta.ca/disciplines/biology/>, Augustana Faculty, Camrose, AB Chair, Standing Committee for Publications, STLHE<https://www.stlhe.ca/> Teaching Professor Conference Advisory Board member<https://www.magnapubs.com/teaching-professor-conference/advisory-board.html> [Image removed by sender.]<https://www.magnapubs.com/teaching-professor-conference/> email<mailto:[log in to unmask]> | website<https://www.ualberta.ca/augustana/about-us/academic-staff/neil-haave> | blog<http://activelylearning2teach.blogspot.ca/> | Twitter<https://twitter.com/nhaave> | LinkedIn<https://ca.linkedin.com/in/neilhaave> "Education should not be intended to make people comfortable; it is intended to make them think." Hanna Holborn Gray, President, University of Chicago, 1978-1993 On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 at 09:34, Bill Roberson <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Hi, All, I’ll add one more comment on TBL in small classes. I once had a class of 5 students, and decided to see if the process would work with a single team. I ran the one-team experiment just as I would a large class with a couple of small modifications. The problem with a small class is how to make the instructor invisible during team discussions. In a large class this is easy as the teams are busy with their problem-solving. In a small class it’s much harder to fade into the background. So, during the tRAT I would leave the room, then after a few minutes, come back and sit down with the team and ask them how they did. Then we’d discuss the questions they struggled with. I’d ask them to consider appeals, and would leave the room again for a few minutes to let them confer. During the 4-S application activities, same thing. I would go out of the room and give them time to reach a decision. When I came back in I’d sit down with them and ask them what they decided, and ask them to explain. I simply became a member of the discussion. In this way I could probe the topic with all team members, so the conversation was rich and inclusive. The fact that they had debated amongst themselves made it possible for all 5 of them to participate in this give and take with me. I was fortunate enough to have an office close to where the class was being taught. This allowed me to disappear, yet still overhear the murmur of conversation, so I could time the return if they finished the task earlier than anticipated. Bill Bill Roberson, PhD Curriculum, Teaching and Learning Specialist | Centre for Innovation and Excellence in Learning Vancouver Island University | 900 Fifth Street, Nanaimo, BC V9R 5S5 250.753.3245 (2295) | [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> | B305 - R511-C From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Graciela Elizalde-Utnick Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 5:30 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: [External] Re: [TBL_List] TBL in really small classes This message was sent from outside Vancouver Island University. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the source of this email and know the content is safe. Go for it! My classes typically have about 17 graduate students but in the summer I have had as low as 10 or 11. My preferred team size is 5 with 4 being the smallest size. So two teams of 5 is perfect in my world. You do the same that you typically do with the larger classes. You just have two teams and you should note that it will take less time than you are used to. But it works beautifully In my classes. I find that with more than 5 it is easier for students to participate less. Best, Graciela Graciela Elizalde-Utnick, Ph.D. Bilingual Specialization Coordinator, School Counseling & School Psychology Department of School Psychology, Counseling, & Leadership 1107 James Hall School of Education Brooklyn College – CUNY 2900 Bedford Avenue Brooklyn, NY 11210 718.951.5876 Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2020, at 3:32 PM, John Gotwals <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: CAUTION: This email is from outside BC, so examine it closely before opening attachments or clicking on links Hi everyone, I just found out that my fall term course that usually has ~25 students, may only have ~10. Does anyone know of a resource that presents best practices for using TBL in really small courses? 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