What’s interesting is that the original Freeman (2014) PNAS article had already made it clear that future studies using lecture as control should be avoided. Here are my favorite passages: "If the experiments analyzed here had been conducted as randomized controlled trials of medical interventions, they may have been stopped for benefit—meaning that enrolling patients in the control condition might be discontinued because the treatment being tested was clearly more beneficial.” "In addition to providing evidence that active learning can improve undergraduate STEM education, the results reported here have important implications for future research... Given our results, it is reasonable to raise concerns about the continued use of traditional lecturing as a control in future experiments." -msk -------------------------- Michael S. Kirkpatrick Assistant Professor Department of Computer Science James Madison University > On Sep 1, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Neil Haave <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Yes, Wieman pulls no punches in that PNAS article. Maryellen Weimer provided a commentary <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.facultyfocus.com_articles_teaching-2Dprofessor-2Dblog_more-2Devidence-2Dthat-2Dactive-2Dlearning-2Dtrumps-2Dlecturing_&d=CwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=OoR3nDjqA_GyOt3bUCnZUQ&m=H2MVzkcP4_gh17FFcO7noPCq8GMnSN3T46nhxdy2ZqU&s=_cbqBAYFNoioz4AN9ZtXw-hDaIOVHSnkXM3LXmX5t-4&e=> on it a few months ago on her Teaching Professor blog. 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