I’ve had the same experience with second year medical students as Amanda.  I obviously became a bad teacher when I moved everything to TBL because my evaluations plummeted, with comments such as “I pay to have someone teach me…. he hardly said much…he made us do all the work….”  BUT we tracked student performance on exams using the same questions pre/post implementation of TBL and as you might guess, student performance showed statistically significant improvement.   Guess there are many who think Teaching (based on evals) is more important than Learning.

The University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences presented interested data that may address this.  The added TBL to their first and second year medical school curriculum several years ago and showed that similar to many others, the second years didn’t really like it, similar complaints.   This is likely  because we (as faculty) trained them to come to class unprepared where we gave them what they needed to know to pass the test.  BUT, the first year students at the same time, (naïve and untrained by the faculty) really liked TBL and rated it very highly.  

Those who continue to think that giving lectures is the best way for students “get” the important material may really be the biggest problem in moving students to the appropriate approach in terms of "what do we want students to do with what they’ve learned?”
Kevin

N. Kevin Krane, MD, FACP, FASN
Vice Dean for Academic Affairs
Professor of Medicine
Tulane University School of Medicine

From: June Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Thursday, September 18, 2014 at 1:39 PM
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Subject: Re: polarized students' evaluations

We looked at IDEA Center student evaluations pre- and post-implementation of TBL in a pharmacotherapeutics course, and it will be published this month in Am J Pharm Education. Over time, we observed progressive improvements in course and faculty ratings, and other parameters but initially changing the culture of learning resulted in emotional and negative responses...just hang in there, it does get better as both faculty and students adapt!

June Johnson


June Felice Johnson, B.S., Pharm.D., FASHP, FCCP, BC-ADM
Professor of Pharmacy Practice, Clinical Sciences Department
Drake University College of Pharmacy & Health Sciences
2507 University Avenue
Atrium Room 009
Des Moines, IA 50131
Pharmacy Consultant, Iowa Diabetes & Endocrinology Research Center
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From: Team-Based Learning <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Levine, Ruth <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:23 PM
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In the article below Fatmi and her colleagues report that TBL increases performance but not enjoyment. It may be a good resource to share with students during orientation.

Ruth

 

Fatmi M, Hartling L, Hillier T, Campbell S, Oswald A: The effectiveness of team-based learning on learning outcomes in health professions education: BEME Guide No.30. Medical Teacher; 2013; 35:e1608-e1624.

 

 

From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Deepti Vyas
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:10 PM
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Are there any published papers speaking to this issue of evaluations with TBL?

 

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Kubitz, Karla <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I have had similar experiences w/r/t student evaluations… everything from a student mentioning how wonderful my class was during her graduation ceremony speech to students thoroughly trashing my class in their evaluations (and online… Rate My Professor, anyone?).  One thing that helps me understand their perspective is the ‘stuff’ that I wrote about in my chapter for Jim’s new book.  Most college students are in the stage of cognitive development where they view knowledge as right/ wrong.  The professor is the ‘expert’ and should ‘deliver’ knowledge (… yes, pour it into their brains).  Peers/ peer input aren’t valued.  We (in our TBL implementations) can nudge them into more advanced stages of cognitive development by the things that are part and parcel of TBL.  However, it’s not easy… growth never is.  Karla

 

 

Karla Kubitz, Ph.D., FACSM
Program Coordinator, Exercise Science

Department of Kinesiology
Towson University
8000 York Rd
Towson, MD 21252
410-704-3168 (ph)
410-704-3912 (fax)

 

 

 

From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Donna Oglesby
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:44 PM
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Subject: Re: polarized students' evaluations

 

I can echo this experience. My course is not required and as far as I know I am the only professor who has used the TBL method at Eckerd College. The course was Diplomacy and International Relations taught Spring 2014. I learned of the approach from a colleague at Duke who praised it.

 

This year course evaluations were done online by students. So comparisons with all other years, when they were done on paper in the classroom, is problematic. Still, those who loved the course, really loved it and felt they learned considerably more because of peer interactions. More students than I have ever had in any class over a 17 year period, however, expressed dissatisfaction. The big beef was no lectures. I did mini-lectures and also posted lectures on-line to watch or read before coming to class, but I did not use class time to deliver standard lectures. 

 

I made a point of driving home the methodology during the add/drop period and a few students did drop. Most stayed.  Perhaps they had no framework for understanding just how different the class would be. I also did a thorough mid-term review and worked with each team on their peer evaluations and how they might think about adjusting their teamwork if needed.  Students did appear very engaged in the class, discussions were much more lively, lots of debate. That may have made some students uncomfortable.  Others thrived. Bi-modal R US.

 

The collaborative TBL discussion has been a great source of information and solace. Thanks to all.

 

Donna Marie Oglesby

Diplomat in Residence

Eckerd College/BES

4200 54th Ave. South

St. Petersburg, Fl. 33711

 

@winnowingfan

On Sep 18, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Smiley-Oyen, Ann [KIN] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 

Neil – I had the same experience in terms of a vocal (i.e., anonymous course evaluations) minority who trashed me and the course – actually, the worst teaching evaluations I’ve had due to the extreme of their responses across the board. I use TBL in a class of more than 100 students, so it is difficult to monitor how the team dynamics are working, but I am wondering if one contributing factor to their dissatisfaction was their team dynamics. I am attempting to keep a tighter tab this semester (note any teams I think are not working well and be ready to assist if necessary), and to more skillfully design my application exercises. In addition, I am allowing each student to do a “Delta Plus” evaluation so I can try to address issues early in the semester (what they like and what they think could be improved). And, it is just a fact that some students do not want to engage – they want to passively sit, learn enough for the exam, and move on. (My course is a required course.) We do have our limitations on ability to motivate and inspire.

 

Stacey – I like your app. I tried to do something like that, but it was on the last day of class and many had already completed the course eval (it is simply sent to them by email in the final two weeks of the semester). Maybe I need to move that application just before the course eval site opens, and be a bit more systematic with it! Thanks for attaching your application.

 

Ann Smiley-Oyen, PhD

Associate Professor, Kinesiology/Neuromotor Control

Department of Kinesiology

244 Forker

Ames, IA 50011

 

 

 

From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]On Behalf Of Neil Haave
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 9:38 AM
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Subject: Re: Applications

 

Hi Marit,

 

I will be curious if your experience will be the same as mine....  I too have had the experience of implementing TBL and being so pleased with the results as I witnessed them in the classroom: engaged discussion occurring whereas before TBL there was passive silence. However, when the end of term course evaluations were returned to me, I was surprised at the number of students who had a very negative reaction to the teaching & learning strategy that is TBL. They were a minority, but a significant minority. It felt to me like a bit of cognitive dissonance was going on for students - they didn't recognize the learning experience for what it was. On my campus it really feels like implementing TBL is counter-cultural in the sense that students have experienced and expect didactic lecture and to not do the same is to abdicate my instructor responsibilities.

 

I have a lot of work to do in not only teaching my students the course content, but also how to learn deeply so that their education lasts longer than their degree program...

 

Cheers

 

Neil


Neil Haave, PhD

Associate Professor, Biology

University of Alberta, Augustana Faculty

Rm C155, Science Wing, Classroom Building, Augustana Campus

4901 - 46 Avenue, Camrose, AB, CANADA   T4V 2R3

 

"We do not learn from experience . . . we learn from reflecting on experience" - John Dewey

 

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Ostebo,Marit <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I am implementing TBL for the first time this semester. It seems to work very well (judging from the high level of participation in the class and the good feeling I have when leaving the classroom). I teach a Human Rights and Culture class, and I just wonder if there are people out there who have been teaching similar classes and who would like to share their applications with me. Topics that I cover are e.g.  Violence, conflict resolution and legal pluralism,  Women’s Rights and Gender Equality, Human Rights activism, Anthropology and Human rightsHuman rights and International Development +++

 

A few weeks back I had a focus on dignity, and the applications I had designed worked EXTREMELY well. If anyone is interested, - I am happy to share. It should be of relevance not only for those teaching human rights, but also for instructors in nursing, medicine, ethics, etc.

 

Please shoot me an e-mail off list if you are interested: [log in to unmask]

 

Marit Ostebo

 

 

 

 

 

Marit Tolo Ostebo (PhD)

Lecturer

Department of Anthropology

Address:

427 Grinter Hall – PO BOX 115560

Gainesville, FL 32611-5560

 

 

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