Thanks Jim and Larry for your suggestions. Jim, I thought about lowering grades for everyone as you suggest, however that poses another issue. A group in which everyone receives 10 is, theoretically, the best outcome we should strive for. if the scores are a genuine reflection of students' contribution to the team, it does make sense that all members of that team would receive the highest possible grade. This situation is preferable to the one where 1-2 students do all/most of the work and receive a higher grade than everyone else. Shouldn't the reward system reflect that? Thanks again, Noam On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Larry Michaelsen <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Dear Naom, > > Whatever system you use, THE key thing you want to AVOID is having your > students interpret your choices about your grading system as a way forcing > them to give each other bad grades. They tend to push back on peer > assessment anyway and, if they think they are being forced to give bad > grades to each other, you are not likely to get honest evaluations and you > are likely to get lots of complaints. > > In my case, I don't use the standard 90% = A, so the fact that the average > is 10 of 10 is insignificant. > > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jim Sibley <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> we to use the Michaelsen method.....we arbitrarily peg average at >> 75%....so if the students give tens across the board...they just made >> everyone average.....so they would get 7.5 out of 10 >> >> we tell students this before they fill out the evaluation >> >> jim >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Noam Perry <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Dear fellow TBLers. >>> This is my second semester using TBL in a course about human rights. >>> Last semester I ran into a slight problem while calculating the peer >>> evaluation score at the end of the course. I was using peer evaluation as >>> an independent grade component, a.k.a. Michaelsen's procedure. I took this >>> component of the grade to be 10% of the final grade. When I actually >>> calculated the grades, I realized that since the average students score is >>> always 10, some students get more than 10. Given the suggested formula in >>> the book, these students effectively receive extra credit, and the overall >>> course final grades were inflated. >>> Am I missing anything, or is this the way intended? >>> Thanks, >>> Noam >>> ---------------------------------------------- >>> Noam Perry >>> Lecturer >>> Department of Justice Studies >>> San Jose State University >>> One Washington Square >>> San Jose, CA 95192 >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jim Sibley and Amanda Bradley >> 106-2575 West 4th Ave. >> Vancouver, BC >> Canada >> >> h 604-564-1043 >> w 604-822-9241 >> > > > > -- > ******************************* > Larry K. Michaelsen, Professor of Management > Dockery 400G, University of Central Missouri > Warrensburg, MO 64093 > 660/543-4315 voice, 660/543-8465 fax > For info on: > Team-Based Learning (TBL) <www.teambasedlearning.org> > Integrative Business Experience (IBE) <http://ucmo.edu/IBEl<http://faculty.ucmo.edu/ibe/home.html> > > > ******************************* >