Hello All, Gail's experience is exactly the opposite of most of those who have tried out-of-class iRATs. I called her right after I saw her post and we're working on a joint post in which we will try to sort out why they have worked for her but, not others. Stay tuned. I have the feeling that we will all learn something from the discussion as it proceeds. Larry On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:10 PM, FEIGENBAUM, GAIL <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hello, All! > > I have been using online iRATs, and then have the students do the gRATs > when they get to class. Began to do this about a year and a half of go in > making the move to a hybrid format. It has been working well. Per Sunay > Palsole @ UTEP, students have only 20 minutes for the iRATs....and the > iRATs are open a limited amount of time. > > Grade spread is the same. gRAT discussion is just as lively, if not more > so. I have quite a diversity of students......no HS degrees to phd's > coming back to re-train for a new field. My spoecial needs students also > benefit....they say that they don't feel the pressure that they feel in > class when everyone is working faster than they are. > > > Gail > > Gail Feigenbaum, RN, PhD > Nursing Assistant Instructor > School of Health, Wellness, Public Safety > Central New Mexico Community College > Office - Main Campus, ST 10A > Office Phone - 505-224-4000, ext 50163 > Cell/Message Phone - 505-463-2010 > Campus Email Address - [log in to unmask] > ________________________________________ > From: Team-Based Learning [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Preast, Vanessa A [SOE] [[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:12 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Individual RATs completed outside of class and then team RATs in > class? > > Hello all you brilliant TBLers, > > I was wondering if you could provide me your thoughts on the pros/cons? > My statistics class had a heart-to-heart on the quantity of work in my > class and we were brainstorming ways to help with time estimates (me) and > time management (students). One student suggested that we move the iRATs > out of class and just do the tRATs in class. Another student brought up > the point that if we move the iRATs out of class, that doesn't help the too > long to complete homework problem since that would either just add to the > homework or displace some potentially important practice activities outside > of class. > > Anyway, I am having a really hard time coming up with the pros and cons > for having the iRATs out of class and I told my class I'd see what your > experience has been and I'd get back to them on that one. What are your > ideas or experiences with iRATs outside of class? > > Best, > Vanessa > > > _____________________ > Vanessa Preast, DVM PhD > Post-Doctoral Research Associate > N0221B Lagomarcino > Iowa State University > Ames, IA 50011 > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > -- ******************************* Larry K. Michaelsen, Professor of Management Dockery 400G, University of Central Missouri Warrensburg, MO 64093 660/543-4315 voice, 660/543-8465 fax For info on: Team-Based Learning (TBL) <www.teambasedlearning.org> Integrative Business Experience (IBE) <http://ucmo.edu/IBEl<http://faculty.ucmo.edu/ibe/home.html> > *******************************