Yes integrating with blackboard might make sense

We currently in an LMS selection cycle and will either be moving to Blackboard or Moodle in the next couple of years.

Integration will happen...but won’t be on our radar for another couple of years

We rolled iPeer out to our entire campus last year with faculty administrators download class lists from the student information system and manually importing them

The system is already integrated with on central authentication....but there is no live link to student registrations


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We are about to do a summer of coding...so if you have feature suggestions (other than blackboard integration :-)....let us know


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From: Robyn Davidson <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>
Organization: The University of Adelaide
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:02:04 +1030
To: 'Serge Okon' <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>
Cc: James Sibley <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>
Subject: ipeer compatibality with Blackboard

Hi Jim and  Serge
 
I successfully used iPeer in the second half of last year. I have now put in a submission to my university’s IT section to make it available on an extended trial for a dozen other lecturers this year with the view of using it University wide. They have a few concerns, the main one is that it is not integrated into our student system which uses the Blackboard platform. They feel that to make it available to everyone it would have to be integrated so it was populated with enrolled student names and used the same authentication system. Do you know is such a system is already available or is this something that we would have to build ourselves?
 
There are also talking about what other options are available etc. I looked around and iPeer does what we need and I see no reason to pay a licence fee to some other product that may not be as good. If I had an idea of how many other universities were using it and who they were is would certainly add weight to my argument. Have you any idea?
 
Kind regards
Robyn
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From: Serge Okon [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2010 2:01 AM
To: [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]
Cc: Pan Luo; [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Ipeer 2.2 compatibality with 2.1
Hello Robyn,

Yes,  a colleague on mine fixed this bug (though he's yet to submit it to the development tree, it's not in the link that you mentioned yet). It is one of our major goals for 2.2, so no worries, we probably won't make the next 2.2 release unless this fix is in :-)

We aim to keep everything backwards-compatible, so once this bug is fixed, all the evaluation released to students will just appear in their view, as if it's been working all along. The migration of 2.1 to 2.2 should present no problems, and keep all your data.

If you're looking for a pre-view version with the fix, we can let you know the when code is turned in to the development tree (though, at that point it won't be as stable as the upcoming 2.2 release code).



Hope this answers your questions,

 - Serge

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Robyn Davidson <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi Serge
 
I have used iPeer 2.1 successfully to conduct a peer assessment and am about to export the results into Excel and have a play them with so I can give the students some anonymous feedback as the students can’t get the results directly from iPeer.  You said that version 2.2 had the bug fixed and was available from the download link which you gave me below.  Can you tell me, if our IT people instantiated 2.2 would that work with the assessments we already have from 2.1, so the students could just login and see their results. I am just trying to get some inside knowledge here before I talk to our IT people, any suggestions you can give me would be much appreciated. I’d really like my students to be able to see the results visually through iPeer if possible.
 
Kind regards
Robyn
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From: Serge Okon [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, 10 September 2010 2:48 AM
To: Robyn Davidson
Cc: Pan Luo; [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Ipeer User from University of Adelaide - trouble with team formation function

Hi Robyn, thanks very much for the files. I've just tested them on the Sandbox Server with iPeer 2.1, and confirmed that the groups are not filled just like you said.



The reason for this is interesting: it's iPeer's quirks with student numbers and student usernames. It's not sure if they should be the same or not. To work around the issue, when importing students from the CSV file, students usernames should be the same as their student numbers, like in the example bellow (both underlined)

 
22928030, password123, 22928030, [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask], Sam,     Badhan
 
78233046, pass5323123, 78233046, [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask],  Jamille, Borromeo
 
39577051, psaswdrcD23, 39577051, [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask],  Jordon,  Cheung
 
68000058, password123, 68000058, [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask],  David,   Cliffe

I'm sorry that the student import page doesn't stress this, I've been confused about it myself since I came onboard. From the code it looks like previous developers disagreed on which way it should be :-)  But the more I look at it, the more I'm sure.



So, I would suggest to make all your CSV to have your student's usernames be their student numbers, and let them log in with their student numbers as well. Using new CSV files, please re-import your students, and then your groups. This should fix the issue :-)

The second problem you are having, with released comments to students, has to do with a known bug, which my colleague fixed for the next iPeer release. However, the fix is not available yet in the stable iPeer versions. It is in our development tree (the SVN version at http://burrito.olt.ubc.ca/trac/wiki/download), which your IT department could instantiate for you. Though, seeing that they don't like untested code (a good practice, actually :-) it might not be available to you for the next month or so untill we make iPeer 2.2 available. So, for now, the students can't see each other's evaluations, only instructors can.

Thank you for your trust that iPeer will save you a lot of work, we sure hope it does! :-) Please let us know if there are any more difficulties, since it'll help us fix bugs.

- Serge.
 

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Robyn Davidson <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi Serge

Thanks for your prompt reply.

We downloaded version 2.1 and have it running on a server at my institution (Adelaide University in Australia). Initially our IT people were not keen to install anything they had not thoroughly test etc on their server. Unfortunately it is accessible only from the internal network, so I can't even work on it from home, let alone give you access so you can see what is happening. Is it possible to use an instance on one of your servers so that I know it is at least configured correctly?

After having trouble uploading with my large class I made two small files with just 4 students and 1 group and I played around with them. These are attached. I used them in your sand box just now and the students upload all right - I've added them to the course COMP 101 101.  Then I uploaded the groups, as you will see it has made the group called "The Boys" but not assigned the students to the group. If you assigened students to a group (I assume this is your test in "Course2") and it worked then hopefully it is something simple with the layout of my csv file.

I also have another problem. Yesterday, with my small testing class I manually  assigned the students, created the evaluations (one of each type) and then logged in as the students and did the evaluations. All  is working well except after I had reviewed all the evaluations and released all results and comments as the instructor, then logged back in as a student, the student could not see the results. It said results and comments not yet released. Any clues why this may be?

I am very grateful of any help you can give me. This looks like wonderful software and will save me (and my colleagues) many hours and provide so much better feedback to the students if we can get it working correctly.

By the way, I'm not sure who Jim got me confused with, but I am not a gentleman, I am a lady :)

Well, that teaches me to be careful about the emails I forward ! :-)



Kind regards
Robyn





On 9/09/2010 6:56 AM, Serge Okon wrote:
Hello, this is Serge, I'm a student developer working on iPeer at UBC.

Sorry to hear you're having troubles with the system, but I think we can trace them down.



I've just tested the group import via CSV on our Sandbox server, (http://ipeerverf.olt.ubc.ca, described in http://burrito.olt.ubc.ca/trac/wiki/SandBox). Seems to work fine on our end, but I don't have access to your files or your iPeer instance, so this doesn't tell us much :-)

There are a few things I'll ask you, if you don't mind:

1) Which server are you using? Is one of our servers at UBC, or are you running your own instance at your institution?

2) Which iPeer version are you running? The latest release we've made is 2.1. The version number is right beside the top iPeer logo on all iPeer pages.

Also, would you please send me your student & group CSV files once again? They didn't make it through all the forwarded messages.

I'll test them on the Sandbox version to see if they work.

Thank you!



- Serge



On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Luo, Pan <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> wrote:

--re a few thing

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From: "Sibley, Jim" <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>

Date: September 8, 2010 7:41:29 AM PDT

To: "Luo, Pan" <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>

Cc: "[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Ipeer User from University of Adelaide - trouble with team formation function

Hi Pan


Not sure if you can help the gentlemen below.....when he tries to form teams
using a csv file....iPeer throws an error

jim

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From: Robyn Davidson <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>
Organization: The University of Adelaide
Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:11:30 +0930
To: <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>, James Sibley <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>
Cc: <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>
Subject: RE: using iPeer

Hi again

Furter to my previous email below, I just relised that when I look on the
individual Groups page, in the members section there is the message
"Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in
/var/www/html/app/views/groups/view.tpl.php on line 28" does this give you
any clue as to what is going wrong?

Regards
Robyn

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From: Robyn Davidson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:07 AM
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Cc: [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> '; [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> '
Subject: using iPeer

Hi Jim

It's Robyn Davidson here. I met you earlier in the year at Adelaide
University. I am taking Cate Jerram's IS1 class this semester while she is
on study leave. I have talked our IT people into letting me trial the iPeer
software and am trying to set it up now for my class. I've created a class
and uploaded all the student details no problems by using a csv file but now
I'm having a problem with setting up the groups (again using a csv file).
The software makes the groups but does not assign the students. When I try
again, it make the groups again but still no students (so I end up with lots
of groups).

I could assign the students manually, but with a big class this is going to
take some time. Also, eventually I'd like to demonstrate the software to the
School, so ideally I'd like to be able to do it with the csv file.

I decided the best approach was to start again with a small number of
students and groups until I learn the software. The two files attached are
my students and groups for my "Country Greats" class. Unfortunately I can't
give you the URL as IT have set it up so that is it only accessible
internally.

Have you had this problem with anyone else and do you have any ideas on what
I can do differently?

My apologies for sending this to three email addresses, but with the time
difference (it is only morning here) I am hopeful that someone may read
their email and help me before the end of my day.

Kind regards
Robyn

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