Herb and others:

First, this is very difficult to do...pragmatically speaking...  even when
using a "Clicker" system like we do, with the computer grading each
students iRAT immediately.  Getting that data to each individual could be
extremely time consuming, taking valuable class time.  And, if you use the
IF AT form, you defeat the purpose... no Team learning now.

Second, the whole idea is to keep everyone as open-minded as possible to
the "best" answer, and to stir discussion and debate.... not knowing how
you did, exactly, puts one in the mind of "well, maybe I didn't have the
best answer," afterall.

We use the Clicker (PRS Response, in particular)... in Self Paced Mode for
the iRAT... we then analyze the data while the students do the tRAT  using
the IF AT form.. We also hand out Team Clickers..asking the Teams to
"click-in" their first "scratch" on the IF AT form... albeit they
eventually earn points like 4:2:1:0 from the IFAT.

So, during class,.... we immediately know how the Individuals are doing
overall... how well the Teams "trump" the individuals, etc...  giving us
quick look at where to focus during the follow-up mini-lecture especially
if both Individuals and Teams missed the question...

Sorry to be rambling here... but this seems to work!  And, have to get to a
Seminar...

sincerely,

Gary D. Lynne, Professor
Department of Agricultural Economics and
     School of Natural Resources
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University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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I was talking another professor who does individual and team testing.
She said she does not give them their individual scores before they do
the team test. So students do not know how well they did before they
take their team test. I'm wrestling with whether it's better to give the
students their scores or not. She argues that it prevents those who miss
a few items from controlling the conversation and they have to explain
their answers in light of the text or understanding and not by saying ,
"well I only missed 2 so I think I know the answer on this one."

Any thoughts one way or the other on whether it's better to give the
students their scores before the team test or not?

--

Herb Coleman, Ph.D
Dir. Instructional Computing and Technology
Adjunct Professor of Psychology
Austin Community College
Highland Business Center
5930 Middle Fiskville Rd.
Austin, TX 78752
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