I've seen web ads that have a scratch off feature (use mouse to scratch over an area and opens something underneath) - so I'm sure technologically it is very possible, just don't know anyone who is interested in doing it.  There are also online exams that give feedback, but haven't found some that permit variable scoring.  But we are exploring a web-based program called LAMS (the Learning Activity Management System).  It appears to enable you to set up a web-based exam, feedback, and variable feedback - will let you know if it works.

We do worry about some of the elements of the scratch off and the group dynamics if the exams are on computer rather than paper.  Gonna see how that is impacted.

Sandy

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Dan Robinson at UT Austin does indeed have a PC version of IF-AT

Guess we could have at least one student per team bring a laptop.....hope
our wireless network can take it

The most popular clicker...iClicker has no mechanism for feedback....so they
couldnąt be tweaked to do this

I still think there is something fun, social, engaging with the scratch
off....that might be lost on a computer :-)

jim

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> Were the folks at UT-Austin not developing an online IF-AT system 2 years ago?
> Has that gone anywhere?

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> Me, too, wishing there was an IF AT in an electronic form... for use both with
> clickers in class, and especially for use in on-line, distance ed teaching (am
> teaching a distance ed course, and would like to try TBL in that realm).
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> What I would now like is an electronic IF-AT process that can use the clickers
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> Jim and others, re: paper scanners:
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> Am curious as to why scanners are being used rather than clickers? Pros
> and cons? We, for the first time last spring, used the "homework"
> feature (i.e. students enter their RAT answers during class as an in-class
> homework) of the PRS Response clicker system, and it works great, in a
> class of 50-students. Instant grading by the computer, and a gradebook
> produced automatically in Excel format. Also, no Departmental/teaching
> budget cost: Students already have the clickers, because they are being
> used on campus in the larger general ed courses (like chemistry).
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> The Apperson scanner are inexpensive and work great.....we can easily scan
> 160 tests while the students are doing the team test (probably could score
> 500-600 in the time)
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> I like that you don't have to attach it to a computer in class....we print
> tally and item analysis cards right after scanning and have the aggregate
> results to inform our mini-lecture....and office rescans the forms later to
> generate the excel
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> I just order my fifth scanner for my Faculty
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> Haven't tried their new Apperson scanner with a feeder....would be more
> convenient...but uses different forms than the Advantage scanners I already
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> On 09-09-16 3:53 PM, "Herb Coleman" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> > I also wonder what people think of using Gradecam to grade the iRATs and
>> > T-RAT's.
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>> > http://edtech247.pbworks.com/GradeCam
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>> > Bill Goffe wrote:
>>> >> For those who like to score RATs in class,
>>> >> http://appersonedu.com/scanners/grademastertestscanner.aspx looks like a
>>> >> possibility. I don't have a connection to them; I happened to see their
>>> >> add in Science News and they don't seem to appear in the FAQ:
>>> >> http://teambasedlearning.apsc.ubc.ca/?page_id=72 .
>>> >>
>>> >> - Bill
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