If you reply to this long (8 kB) post please don't hit the reply button unless you prune the copy of this post that may appear in your reply down to a few relevant lines, otherwise the entire already archived post may be needlessly resent to subscribers. Karen Hoff (2009) in her TeamLearning-L post of 12 June titled "introduction" wrote: [BTW: The "chilling" academic protocol "Hoff (2009)" means that if a reader scrolls down to "Hoff, K. 2009" in the REFERENCE list below and clicks on the indicated URL <http://tinyurl.com/nypspc>, then Hoff's post will be brought to her/his screen, so there's no need to hit the reply button (bane of discussion lists but the habit of many TeamLearning-L posters) so as to copy yet again her entire already archived post.] "I just recently joined this listserve, so I don't know who makes up the members of this list. Sorry if I repeat something you have already discussed. . . . . . A few of my many questions: 1. Do you know of anyone using TBL at the high school level? 2. Is anyone here a chemistry teacher/professor? I really need to see an in-class team activity. 3. I have many specific questions. Should I 'clutter' the list with them? Or maybe I can talk with one person specifically." Regarding question #3: "Should I 'clutter' the list with [specific questions]?" My own answer would be: "YES, but only after you've searched the archives for the answer, in which case the question would NOT constitute 'clutter'." More specifically, suggestion #1 of my universally ignored "Fourteen Posting Suggestions" [Hake (2005a)] is: "1. Search the ARCHIVES of the list before asking a question or opening a new topic (it may already have been discussed ad nauseam)." For the case of TeamLearning-L go to the powerful but seldom used search engine at <http://list.olt.ubc.ca/cgi-bin/wa?S1=TEAMLEARNING-L&Y>. Karen's questions #1 and #2 might be at least partially answered by the following searches [hit numbers are as of 14 June 2009, about 07:30:00-0700; TBL veterans could probably suggest better searches]: "1. Do you know of anyone using TBL at the high school level?" Type ['high school'] (with the single quotation marks '......' but without the brackets [.....]) into the "String" slot to obtain 35 hits. Or narrow the search to this: Type ['high school' chemistry] (with the single quotation marks '......' but without the brackets [.....]) into the "String" slot to obtain 16 hits. "2a. "Is anyone here a chemistry teacher/professor? " Type "chemistry" (without the quotes "......" into the "String" slot to obtain 36 hits. 2b. "I really need to see an in-class team activity." Type ['team activity'] (with the single quotation marks '......' but without the brackets [.....]) into the "String" slot to obtain 12 hits. Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University 24245 Hatteras Street, Woodland Hills, CA 91367 Honorary Member, Curmudgeon Lodge of Deventer, The Netherlands. <[log in to unmask]> <http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake/> <http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~sdi/> <http://HakesEdStuff.blogspot.com/> REFERENCES [Tiny URL's courtesy <http://tinyurl.com/create.php>.] Hake, R.R. 2005a. "Fourteen Posting Suggestions," online at <http://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0507&L=pod&P=R12861&I=-3>. Post of 23 Jul 2005 11:38:29-0400 to AERA-C, AERA-G, AERA-GSL, AERA-H, AERA-I, AERA-J, AERA-K, AERA-L, ASSESS, EvalTalk, Math-Learn, PhysLrnR, POD, STLHE-L, TeachingEdPsych, and TIPS. For a guide to discussion lists see Hake (2008)]. For a defense of cross-posting see Hake (2005b). Hake, R.R. 2005b. "Cross-Posting - Synergistic or Sinful?" Post of 1 Nov 2005 08:37:12-0800 to ITFORUM and AERA-L. Online at <http://tinyurl.com/2m59v4>. Hake, R.R. 2008. "Over Sixty Academic Discussion Lists: List Addresses and URL's for Archives & Search Engines," online at <http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake/ADL-L.pdf> (640 kB) and as ref. 49 at <http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake>. This will soon be updated so as to include additions such as TeamLearning-L, TrDev-L, and the new address for TeachEdPsych. For a critique of discussion lists see the ADDENDUM. See also Hake (2009a,b) for more discussion on Academic Discussion Lists (the ADLsphere) and the Blogosphere. Hake, R.R. 2009a. "Over Two-Hundred Education & Science Blogs," Hake'sEdStuff Blog post of 30 March with a provision for comments; online at <http://hakesedstuff.blogspot.com/2009/03/over-two-hundred-education-science.html>. Hake, R.R. 2009b. "Academic Discussion Lists: Faculty Lounges, Collective Short-Term Working Memories, or Academic Journals? "Hake'sEdStuff Blog post of 19 May with a provision for comments; online at <http://hakesedstuff.blogspot.com/2009/05/academic-discussion-lists-faculty.html>. A rebuttal of Michael Sweet's (2009) criticism of pedantic posts such as this one. Hoff, K. 2009. "Introduction" TeamLearning-L post of 12 Jun 2009 10:30:40-0500; online at <http://tinyurl.com/nypspc>. Sweet, M. 2009. "Re: Team-Based Learning (was Re: TBL and Conceptests)," TeamLearning-Lpost of 15 May 2009 21:38:36-0500; online at <http://tinyurl.com/qjt8nv>.