I too give students credit for the team RAT whether present or not. When absent, of course, they do not get credit for their iRAT. The rationale for this became clear to me when I heard Larry Michaelsen speak about it. I teach veterinary students who will likely be in team situations for the rest of their careers. If they go out into a private practice situation, someone will have to pick up their appointments if they are sick or at a conference. Likewise, they will have to pick up appointments when their colleagues are absent. As long as everyone works together it all works out. That is where the peer evaluation component comes in-- to even things out if they get out of balance. I think that it is great practice for life. In practice, most will draw a salary even when sick, but won't advance very far if they don't pull their weight.

On Oct 16, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Melissa Michelson wrote:

I give them the team RAT score but a zero for the iRAT. Then I recommend that they talk to their team about how to make it up to them.

If it's a team, in my opinion, then the team score is for everyone, just as graded team projects are teams scores regardless of absences. So far no complaints.

-Melissa

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Sandy Cook <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

If a person is out with a legitimate excuse (ill, mostly), and communicate with their team and administration that they are out, we will give them up to 2 days to take the IRAT for their individual score and in all cases they will get their GRAT score even if not present. For us, we figure the desire not to lose points at all and the potential impact on their peer score (if this happens more than a couple of times) serves an incentive to not be late and to make it up. Although, I've never had anyone miss the first few (so far anyway).

Sandy

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I will be interested in hearing the answers to this. I do not give the team RAT grade to those who are not present.

M. Hadley,
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Hello All,

Today was our first real RAP and a few students were absent. Do you
give the absent students the team RAT point, or just a zero?

Thanks in advance!
Christine

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