Hi Erica, I like the fact that students figure out how each individual performs. I teach in business, and differentiating between high performers and low performers is a basic management skill - one that usually determines individual pay. So, students need to learn early to discriminate based on performance, and give feedback to each other regarding performance. They can't do that if they don't know how an individual performs. Mary Dr. Mary McCord 405G Dockery Hall University of Central Missouri Warrensburg, MO 64093 (660) 422-2857 >>> Erica Hunter <[log in to unmask]> 9/25/2008 9:26 AM >>> My friend and I both teach TBL and we were concerned about the privacy issue, since it is really easy for students to "figure out" who is who, especially if a student misses a RAT (which happens in my large enrollments often). We changed the folder cover to include for the iRATs: Team High Team Low Team Average I think this helps keep things more "private" but also helps keep the motivation to do the work better since students can place their iRAT score in the mix (they will know if they are the low score or bringing the team down). I also give the class high/low and team scores in class for comparison. I often get low scoring teams ("The RAT was too tricky and hard! Waa!") and I think the overall comparison helps to show that it is possible to do well -- kind of like, "Hey, your team averaged 40% but a lot of individuals got an 80%. I don't think it is too tricky if you do the reading and then work on the gRAT as a team." I also have my students use a separate answer sheet for their iRAT answers and I let them keep their question sheet for the gRAT so they know how they did at the end of the gRAT on their iRAT. A big part of this is that I don't have a TA and it is hard to manage a TBL RAT session on my own. I just require that they turn in all their materials at the end of the session in their folder. Erica -- Erica Hunter PhD Candidate Department of Sociology University at Albany