We had a similar problem a few years ago...with the bright
key chain white LED.....followed the white dot on the ceiling back to a
group
I actually don't think this is really much of a
problem....we were not circulating around the room enough
we should be circulating around the room anyways.....and it
takes ALL group members to commit to cheating...
I prefer to be up front that you can do this....but if you
get caught....I will get all of you in front of the academic integrity
board....typically group norms comes to the rescue
Jim
Another issue with the gold-flake scratch-off IF AT: My TA overheard a couple
of students talking about how a bright blue light behind the form revealed the
location of the asterisk... I went back through the scratched-off forms (from
that particular event) at that point and, indeed, found several with "precision
scratching" (as you know, the asterisk is not in the same location for every
question, but these students had found a way to find it!... not realizing that
they also were revealing they had found a way to see the asterisk).
Have
not had any problems with the gray coated scratch-offs....
Gary D.
Lynne, Professor
Department of Agricultural Economics and
School of
Natural Resources
103B Filley
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Lincoln,
NE 68583-0922
Website: http://agecon.unl.edu/lynne
Phone:
1-402-472-8281
"We are always only one failed generational transfer of
knowledge away from darkest ignorance" (Herman Daly)
----- Forwarded by Gary D Lynne/AgEcon/IANR/UNEBR on 04/14/2008 07:45 AM
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Fritz & others,
I'd like to share a little information on the
IF-AT forms and the problems people have been experiencing with them.
I
have been using them for several years and they always worked just fine - until
just a few months ago. Then, not often but a few times, people were reporting
that the gold layer on their form wouldn't scratch off.
Before I could get
around to checking with Mike Epstein about it, he called me (I use a lot of
them, so we know each other) and said he had had some production problems and
was changing the physical production: replacing the gold layer with some other
material (looks like silver and gold to my eyes).
He then sent me some sets
of the new forms, and I have not had any problems since
then.
RECOMMENDATION: If you have any of the old forms with the layer
just in gold, you might want to contact Mike, tell him how many of the old ones
you have, and he will replace them, perhaps without charge.
My Best,
Dee
At 12:15 PM 4/11/2008, Fritz Laux wrote:
I've had many problems with the IF-AT
forms. What happens is that goldish film covering the answers simply won't
scratch off (it seems especially stubborn over where the stars are).
Students end up with holes in the forms, etc.
Perhaps some of you
know a secret on this? Is it perhaps too much humidity? Suggestions? I have
been too timid to complain to Epstein but plan, one day, to be more
courageous.
Fritz Laux
Economics
Northeastern State
U
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Fritz
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:04 AM
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Subject: Re: IF-AT use
We're starting to use clickers instead
of scantrons as well.
As far as I can tell, the only way NOT to kill
trees and NOT use scantrons is to have students bring their own laptop to
class and complete the quiz, perhaps in a course management system. This way
they see the questions AND answer choices. But as long as you don't allow
them to see the CORRECT answers for the online individual quiz, they can use
one member's laptop to see the questions and then complete the IF-AT answer
sheet "team quiz."
There was a thread a few months ago on this list
about how to even use an online quiz for the team quiz, but I have to say
there really is no substitute for the energy of people working with the
scratch off cards hoping to hit jackpot on their first answer choice. Great
stuff.
The only reason I'd like to see the online team quiz option is
so an online-only class might be able to experience what a Face-to-Face or
hybrid/blended class does with the team scratch off cards. While the video
conferencing tools are getting better, the only problem for an online class
is security: how do you guarantee that online students aren't skipping to
the "open book" (appeals stage) that is supposed to come AFTER the team
quiz.
Later,
John
On Apr 11, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Sandy
Cook wrote:
We have been
using audience response system that permits the students to take the
individual tests at their own pace. It require killing trees for the exams,
but the beauty is that we don't have to have them go question by question -
they can go back and forth as desired, AND, we have real-time data on how
they perform on each item and quick scoring. I wouldn't want to do it any
other
way.
Sandy
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Associate Dean for Curriculum Development
Duke/NUS Graduate
School of Medicine
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Fri 4/11/2008
8:36 PM
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Subject: Fw: IF-AT use
Scott, I am
wondering what scanner technology you have been using? This
is one of the
challenges with using this approach, on finding out, during
class which
questions/concepts are creating problems for the students.
Being able to
scan a score sheet, immediately, sounds like the way to go
(doing it
while the Teams are working through the one- IF AT each team
fills
out).
We have experimented with sampling... in a class of 48-students
this
semester, randomly pulling out a 25% sample of the score sheets
(which we
had made-up, using the "allocation of 4-points" for the case of
4-possible
answers, approach) they turn in before they go into the
Team/IF AT part
of the exercise. Then, we hand grade those 12-score
sheets, using clear
plastic overlays... having TA help here.. and then
"lecture" only on what
the sample of 12 suggests are problem areas. This
works to the extent the
sample is representative... but I would prefer
having a scanner in class to
see how all 48-students handled the
questions. Also, grading 48-score
sheets by plastic overlay/by hand is
tedious at best! (Also, I am assuming
the scanner technology you are
using also associates the name with the
score? Data (grades/score)
management for upwards of 10 or more RATs X 48
students, plus 10 X 8 Team
RATs a semester is a nightmare!
Thank you for any help you can
provide in this matter.
Gary D. Lynne, Professor
Department of
Agricultural Economics and
School of Natural Resources
103B
Filley
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Lincoln, NE
68583-0922
Website: http://agecon.unl.edu/lynne
Phone: 1-402-472-8281
"We are always only
one failed generational transfer of knowledge away from
darkest
ignorance" (Herman Daly)
----- Forwarded by Gary D
Lynne/AgEcon/IANR/UNEBR on 04/11/2008 07:24 AM
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Scott
Zimmerman
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Please respond to
Scott
Zimmerman
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ISSOURISTATE.EDU>
Christine,
The two RATs are exactly the
same. Ideally, we use a scantron for the
individual and the IF-AT for the
team. The scantron allows us to correct
the individual RAT during the
team RAT. Since our scanner is no longer
functioning, we have been
correcting the IRATs by hand.
Scott
On 4/10/08 11:42 PM,
"Christine Kuramoto" < [log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Hi again,
> It looks
to me as if the tests are the same, but if you use the IF-AT
> forms
for the individual tests, they'll already know the answers before
>
the group test so . . . Is it best to only use the IF-AT for the
group
test?
> Christine
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