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Maybe I'm one of the sympathetic Deans, but my problem is that every time a faculty gets "poorer" ratings and comments like "I wish you would lecture more" or (worst still when they slip up and do lecture a bit) "It was really great when you lectured, because everything was so much more clear - please do more of it"  they have a moment of thinking to drop TBL.  I tell them that students want the lazy way out - of course they want you to lecture to them - that way they don't have to think, they don't have to prepare, and they don't have to learn.  Learning well is hard work - and like parents, we need to tell the students that sometimes you have to eat your vegetables. 

I like the car analogy.  Or try an airplane pilot (the masters of teamwork and simulation/practice of applications).  Would you want your flight under the control of someone who slept through lectures or actually 
Practices and got feedback on flying!

Sandy
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-----Original Message-----
From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Emke, Amanda R.
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:29 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Selling TBL to students as a legitmate teaching technique

I did a pilot study that asked my students some basic knowledge
questions and compared the results from my first year of teaching
(straight didactic) to that of my first year using TBL. There was a
statistically significant increase in the number of correct answers in
the TBL group. 

That being said, I still have students that complain they are "missing
out" on vital information since TBLs have replaced many of their
lectures. I think it will be hard to convince them without more hard
evidence. 

-Amanda

Amanda R. Emke, MD
	Course Master, Pre-Clinical Pediatrics
		Washington University School of Medicine
	Instructor, Division of Pediatric Hospital Medicine
	Fellow, Division of Pediatric Critical Care
		St. Louis Children's Hospital
	One Children's Place, NWT Box 8116
	St. Louis, MO  63110
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-----Original Message-----
From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Bill Goffe
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Selling TBL to students as a legitmate teaching technique

1. Maybe get a dispensation from your chair and dean on these evals? I
do
   something like that here. I don't want to get into the huge
literature
   on teaching evaluations (and even firmer feelings), but it isn't
clear
   to me that in this case that they should play a larger role than the
   method used to teach.

2. Too bad you can't run some sort of experiment on learning to the
   students to show them that THEY learn more with TBL. I was reading 
   "Improving Classroom Performance by Challenging Student
Misconceptions 
   About Learning"
   http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/getArticle.cfm?id=2666 .
   It describes two experiments on study methods in which you challenge
   student misconceptions with data collected from their class. I don't
   know how you could do that with TBL without splitting your class. 

   Well, if you used the same final or questions, maybe point out that
the
   TBL class did better than your classes in the past?

    - Bill



Duane asked:

>    I just received end of semester student evaluations for fall 2010
>    semester.  Some students did not "buy into" the TBL theory of
teaching.
> 
>    I did my best to explain the justification for using TBL during the
first
>    week of class.
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>    More specifically, I used
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>    1.)    the process described in the attached document
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>    First-Day Questions for the Learner-Centered Classroom
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>    by Gary A. Smith  (National Teaching and Learning Forum, Sept.
2008)
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>    and
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>    2.)    the  video from U. of Texas
>    ([1]http://magenta.cit.utexas.edu/largeclasses/#tbl)   .
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>    Still, some students think they should be lectured to every class
and,
>    also, think they are being short- changed by a professor that uses
TBL.
> 
>    I have interacted with Larry Michaelsen over the years and have
watched
>    the videos at
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>                 [2]http://tblc.camp9.org/TBLVideos
> 
>    Please advise me of things besides the above that will make
students
>    better "buy into" the TBL process.
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> 
>    Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
>    Duane Stock
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>    Professor of Finance
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>    University of Oklahoma
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>    Duane R. Stock, Price Investments Professor
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>    205A  Adams Hall
> 
>    Price College of Business
> 
>    University of Oklahoma
> 
>    Norman, OK  73019
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>    work email: [3][log in to unmask]
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>    home email: [4][log in to unmask]
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>    work fax: 405.325.7688
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>    work phone: 405.325.5690
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>    home phone: 405.364.5347
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>    cell phone:  405.808.9344
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>    home address: 4112 Harrogate Drive
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>                                    Norman, OK  73072
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> References
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>    1. http://magenta.cit.utexas.edu/largeclasses/%23tbl
>    2. http://tblc.camp9.org/TBLVideos
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-- 
Bill Goffe
Department of Economics
SUNY Oswego, 416 Mahar Hall
Oswego, NY 13126
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