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On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Andrew Finn <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi all & especially Christine,
>
> Not surprisingly, this issue came up on the list a couple years ago.
> (Wish I could find the exchange from then). But here's a short
> version of what I said:
>
> Legitimate absences (medical, athletic, tragic, emergency excuses)
> are always going to be an issue. I solved it years ago by giving 6
> RATs and dropping the lowest iRAT and the lowest tRAT. It takes the
> pressure off everyone in several ways. Obviously then, I build my
> total semester points based on 5 RATs from the beginning.
>
> (Re: Dean Parmelee's 4/20/10 comment - if you had 5 or fewer no
> shows after 1600 students (times X number of RATs!), your Wright
> State students are amazing. I've personally had over 1000 students
> through my TBL courses and legitimate absences come up almost every
> semester.)
>
> Related -
> - if you aren't present in class to contribute to the tRAT, you
> can't get the points
> - I always give RATs at the beginning of class, and inevitably some
> students walk in late. My rule is: you must do the iRAT first. When
> the tRAT starts, you must turn in your iRAT regardless of whether
> you are finished. If teams have already started the tRAT, an
> arriving student can take the iRAT out in the hall, but will have to
> miss the tRAT. "Readiness Assessment" starts at the individual
> level, then the team level.
>
> Andy
>
> On Apr 20, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Christine Kuramoto wrote:
>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> I have a question about absent team members. In the past I've
>> always given students the tRAT score from their team when they
>> missed a RAT day and a 0 for the iRAT. I'm teaching the same 100
>> students in their second round of TBL and notice the same guys tend
>> to skip class as the last time. My students had a tendency to be
>> quite lenient on their peer evaluations, so the skippers got the
>> team points and still got pretty good peer evaluations last year
>> (with a few brave members commenting "you should come to class
>> more" but still not lowering their scores much).
>>
>> I'm beginning to wonder if I should step in and say that absent
>> students won't get the team score for the tRAT. The tRATs are what
>> saved a few of them from failing last year. Am I teaching them that
>> it's OK to be lazy and let your team take responsibility for it? Or
>> should I be looking at the bigger picture that says, "See team! You
>> have the power to let them sink or save them. It's up to you."--
>> which is then teaching them the responsibility of being part of a
>> team and what the real world is like.
>>
>> Hmmmmm. . .
>>
>> Please let me know what you think.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Christine
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