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Herb,

I think one of the most important things that students can learn from TBL is that, "WE can do things that even the best of us couldn't do alone."  The best tool we have to teach it is the comparison of the individual and team scores.  In my judgment, ANYTHING that would detract from that learning opportunity should be avoided like the plague.  For me that would definitely include ANY opportunity to review between the individual and team tests.  Further, some choose to give the iRAT on line to save class time but, I think the cost (i.e., watering down the iRAT vs. tRAT comparison) is not even close to an equal trade off.  

Larry

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Larry K. Michaelsen
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University of Central Missouri
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>>> Herb Coleman <[log in to unmask]> 09/03/10 10:31 AM >>>
On a related issue (this may have been addressed before). Do you allow 
students to look at notes or material between the iRAT and T-RAT? Since 
I allow those who finish early to take break (so they won't talk so much 
in class while others are finishing) and, I can't police the hallways, 
bathrooms or cell phones (some of my student have their textbook 
available on their iPhones) so I don't even try.

Sweet, Michael S wrote:
> The "one page of handwritten notes" approach works well for many folks.  It forces students to study carefully enough that they have to do their own filtering of what from the material is most important, and at least somewhat put it in their own words.
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> I *don't* recommend letting students use their books.  If you do this, they won't study at all, and will spend the whole time flipping around in the book, reading the material for (maybe) the first time. . .
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> -M
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> From: Team-Based Learning [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kubitz, Karla [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 10:09 PM
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> Subject: Re: notes for RATs?
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> I do.  I allow a single sheet of handwritten notes.  I also provide 'Test Blueprints' to help them focus their reading/ note taking.  Karla
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> Karla Kubitz, PhD, FACSM
> Department of Kinesiology
> Towson University
> 8000 York Rd
> Towson, MD 21252
> 410-704-3168 (ph)
> 410-704-3912 (fax)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Imazeki
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:19 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: notes for RATs?
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> Hi all,
>
> Do you allow students to use their notes for RATs (either individual or group)?
>
> Just curious,
> Jennifer
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>
>   

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Herb Coleman,Ph.D
Dir. Instructional Computing and Technology
Adjunct Professor of Psychology 
Austin Community College
Highland Business Center
5930 Middle Fiskville Rd.
Austin, TX 78752
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