Noam
Glad you are having success with the method.
You missed a step. You need to translate the peer scores into a 100 point scale. For example, you could decide that an average peer grade in your class is a B, or an 85. So, one translation would be:
4= 73
5=75
6= 77
7 = 79
8 = 81
9= 83
10 = 85
11=87
12 = 89
13= 91
14 = 93
15 = 95
16 or higher =97
Other translations are possible - but, this is the basic idea. Usually, you tell the students ahead of time what the translation is.
Shawn
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:43:37 -0800
From: Noam Perry <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: calculating peer evaluation scores
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Dear fellow TBLers.
This is my second semester using TBL in a course about human rights. Last semester I ran into a slight problem while calculating the peer evaluation score at the end of the course. I was using peer evaluation as an independent grade component, a.k.a. Michaelsen's procedure. I took this component of the grade to be 10% of the final grade. When I actually calculated the grades, I realized that since the average students score is always 10, some students get more than 10. Given the suggested formula in the book, these students effectively receive extra credit, and the overall course final grades were inflated.
Am I missing anything, or is this the way intended?
Thanks,
Noam
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Noam Perry
Lecturer
Department of Justice Studies
San Jose State University
One Washington Square
San Jose, CA 95192
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Dear fellow TBLers.<br></div>This is my sec= ond semester using TBL in a course about human rights. Last semester I ran = into a slight problem while calculating the peer evaluation score at the en= d of the course. I was using peer evaluation as an independent grade compon= ent, a.k.a. Michaelsen's procedure. I took this component of the grade = to be 10% of the final grade. When I actually calculated the grades, I real= ized that since the average students score is always 10, some students get = more than 10. Given the suggested formula in the book, these students effec= tively receive extra credit, and the overall course final grades were infla= ted.<br>
</div>Am I missing anything, or is this the way intended?<br></div>Thanks,<=
br>Noam<br>----------------------------------------------<br><div
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Noam Perry<br>
Lecturer<br>
Department of Justice Studies<br>
San Jose State University<br>
One Washington Square<br>
San Jose, CA 95192</div><br></div>
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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:45:56 -0800
From: Jim Sibley <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: calculating peer evaluation scores
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Hi
we to use the Michaelsen method.....we arbitrarily peg average at 75%....so if the students give tens across the board...they just made everyone average.....so they would get 7.5 out of 10
we tell students this before they fill out the evaluation
jim
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Noam Perry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear fellow TBLers.
> This is my second semester using TBL in a course about human rights.
> Last semester I ran into a slight problem while calculating the peer
> evaluation score at the end of the course. I was using peer evaluation
> as an independent grade component, a.k.a. Michaelsen's procedure. I
> took this component of the grade to be 10% of the final grade. When I
> actually calculated the grades, I realized that since the average
> students score is always 10, some students get more than 10. Given the
> suggested formula in the book, these students effectively receive
> extra credit, and the overall course final grades were inflated.
> Am I missing anything, or is this the way intended?
> Thanks,
> Noam
> ----------------------------------------------
> Noam Perry
> Lecturer
> Department of Justice Studies
> San Jose State University
> One Washington Square
> San Jose, CA 95192
>
>
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Canada
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w 604-822-9241
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi<div><br></div><div style>we to use the Michaelsen metho= d.....we=A0arbitrarily=A0peg average at 75%....so if the students give tens= across the board...they just made everyone average.....so they would get 7=
.5 out of 10</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>we tell students this before they fill out = the evaluation</div><div style><br></div><div style>jim</div></div><div cla= ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 = at 8:43 PM, Noam Perry <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:noam.perry@g= mail.com" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Dear fellow = TBLers.<br></div>This is my second semester using TBL in a course about hum= an rights. Last semester I ran into a slight problem while calculating the = peer evaluation score at the end of the course. I was using peer evaluation= as an independent grade component, a.k.a. Michaelsen's procedure. I to= ok this component of the grade to be 10% of the final grade. When I actuall= y calculated the grades, I realized that since the average students score i= s always 10, some students get more than 10. Given the suggested formula in= the book, these students effectively receive extra credit, and the overall= course final grades were inflated.<br>
</div>Am I missing anything, or is this the way intended?<br></div>Thanks,<=
br>Noam<br>----------------------------------------------<br><div>
Noam Perry<br>
Lecturer<br>
Department of Justice Studies<br>
San Jose State University<br>
One Washington Square<br>
San Jose, CA 95192</div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"= ltr">Jim Sibley and Amanda Bradley<br>106-2575 West 4th Ave.<div>Vancouver,= BC</div><div>Canada</div><div><br>h 604-564-1043<br>w 604-822-9241</div></=
div>
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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:32:35 -0600
From: Larry Michaelsen <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: calculating peer evaluation scores
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Dear Naom,
Whatever system you use, THE key thing you want to AVOID is having your students interpret your choices about your grading system as a way forcing them to give each other bad grades. They tend to push back on peer assessment anyway and, if they think they are being forced to give bad grades to each other, you are not likely to get honest evaluations and you are likely to get lots of complaints.
In my case, I don't use the standard 90% = A, so the fact that the average is 10 of 10 is insignificant.
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jim Sibley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> we to use the Michaelsen method.....we arbitrarily peg average at
> 75%....so if the students give tens across the board...they just made
> everyone average.....so they would get 7.5 out of 10
>
> we tell students this before they fill out the evaluation
>
> jim
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Noam Perry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Dear fellow TBLers.
>> This is my second semester using TBL in a course about human rights.
>> Last semester I ran into a slight problem while calculating the peer
>> evaluation score at the end of the course. I was using peer
>> evaluation as an independent grade component, a.k.a. Michaelsen's
>> procedure. I took this component of the grade to be 10% of the final
>> grade. When I actually calculated the grades, I realized that since
>> the average students score is always 10, some students get more than
>> 10. Given the suggested formula in the book, these students
>> effectively receive extra credit, and the overall course final grades were inflated.
>> Am I missing anything, or is this the way intended?
>> Thanks,
>> Noam
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Noam Perry
>> Lecturer
>> Department of Justice Studies
>> San Jose State University
>> One Washington Square
>> San Jose, CA 95192
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jim Sibley and Amanda Bradley
> 106-2575 West 4th Ave.
> Vancouver, BC
> Canada
>
> h 604-564-1043
> w 604-822-9241
>
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660/543-4315 voice, 660/543-8465 fax
For info on:
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Dear Naom,<div><br></div><div>Whatever system you use, THE key thing you wa= nt to AVOID is having your students interpret your choices about your gradi= ng system as a way forcing them to give each other bad grades. They tend to= push back on peer assessment anyway and, if they think they are being forc= ed to give bad grades to each other, you are not likely to get honest evalu= ations and you are likely to get lots of complaints.</div> <div><br></div><div>In my case, I don't use the standard 90% =3D A, so = the fact that the average is 10 of 10 is insignificant.=A0<br><br><div clas= s=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jim Sibley <span dir=3D= "ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">jim.sib= [log in to unmask]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi<div><br></div><div>we to= use the Michaelsen method.....we=A0arbitrarily=A0peg average at 75%....so = if the students give tens across the board...they just made everyone averag= e.....so they would get 7.5 out of 10</div>
<div><br></div><div>we tell students this before they fill out the evaluati= on</div><div><br></div><div>jim</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Noam
br>Perry <=
span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_bla= nk">[log in to unmask]</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Dear fellow = TBLers.<br></div>This is my second semester using TBL in a course about hum= an rights. Last semester I ran into a slight problem while calculating the = peer evaluation score at the end of the course. I was using peer evaluation= as an independent grade component, a.k.a. Michaelsen's procedure. I to= ok this component of the grade to be 10% of the final grade. When I actuall= y calculated the grades, I realized that since the average students score i= s always 10, some students get more than 10. Given the suggested formula in= the book, these students effectively receive extra credit, and the overall= course final grades were inflated.<br>
</div>Am I missing anything, or is this the way intended?<br></div>Thanks,<=
br>Noam<br>----------------------------------------------<br><div>
Noam Perry<br>
Lecturer<br>
Department of Justice Studies<br>
San Jose State University<br>
One Washington Square<br>
San Jose, CA 95192</div><br></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#88= 8888"> </font></span></blockquote></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888= 888"><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Sible= y and Amanda Bradley<br>106-2575 West 4th Ave.<div>Vancouver, BC</div><div>= Canada</div> <div><br>h 604-564-1043<br>w 604-822-9241</div></div>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div>*******= ************************</div><div>Larry K. Michaelsen,=A0Professor of Mana= gement</div><div>Dockery 400G,=A0University of Central Missouri</div><div>W= arrensburg, MO 64093</div> <div>660/543-<span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);fo=
nt-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">4315</span>=A0voice,=A0660/543-8=
465 fax</div><div>For info on:</div><div>Team-Based Learning (TBL)=A0<<a= href=3D"http://www.teambasedlearning.org" target=3D"_blank">www.teambasedl= earning.org</a>>=A0</div> <div>Integrative Business Experience (IBE)=A0<<a href=3D"http://faculty.= ucmo.edu/ibe/home.html" target=3D"_blank">http://ucmo.edu/IBEl</a>></div=
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