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ABSTRACT: Nathaniel Lasry (2009) wrote: "MedEd has been onto 
student-centered approaches for quite a while.  McMaster's medical 
school developed problem based learning (PBL) in the late 60s." But 
Don Woods of the McMaster University Chemical Engineering Department, 
has pointed out that PBL HAS BEEN AROUND FOR CENTURIES and that all 
research is PBL.  This and a wealth of other information on PBL is 
hidden in the PhysLrnR archives 
<http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/physlrnr.html>, as revealed 
by the approximately 60 hits obtained by typing "PBL" (without the 
quotes) into the powerful but seldom used PhysLrnR search engine at
<http://listserv.boisestate.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=physlrnr&X=->.
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Nathaniel Lasry (2009) in his PhysLrnR post "PER and Medical Education," wrote:

  ". . . . . My main point is that MedEd has been onto 
student-centered approaches for quite a while.  McMaster's medical 
school developed problem based learning (PBL) in the late 60s."

But, as indicated in "Problem-based learning (LONG!)" [Hake (2000d)] 
and again in "Problem Based Learning" [Hake (2005)], Don Woods 
<http://www.chemeng.mcmaster.ca/woods.html> of the McMaster 
University Chemical Engineering Department, has pointed out that PBL 
HAS BEEN AROUND FOR CENTURIES and that all research is PBL. Woods 
(2005) wrote [bracketed by lines "WWWW. . . "; my CAPS"]:

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Why does there seem to be so much confusion about what is and what is 
not PBL? Problem-Based Learning, learning because you need to solve a 
problem, HAS BEEN AROUND FOR CENTURIES.  Indeed, in the stone age, 
people learned skills and approaches to solve problems to survive. 
They just didn't say to each other "Hey, you are using PBL."

Similarly, I SUGGEST THAT ALL RESEARCH IS PBL, although we don't call 
it that, we call it research.  In the 1960's McMaster Medical School 
introduced a learning environment that was a combination of small 
group, cooperative, self-directed, interdependent, self-assessed PBL. 
Since then this approach has been called "PBL"'. But PBL, as I 
suggested previously, can be in any form where a problem is posed to 
drive the learning.  To overcome the confusion, I suggest we use the 
awkward terminology of small group, self-directed, self-assessed PBL 
when referring to learning environments similar to the McMaster 
Medical school approach."
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

For yet more on PBL type "PBL" into the "Search for" slot of the 
powerful but seldom used PhysLrnR search engine at 
<http://listserv.boisestate.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=physlrnr&X=-> to obtain 
59 hits on 30 August 2009 09:15:00-0700, among them Hake 
(2000a,b,c,d; 2004a,b; 2005; 2009).

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Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
24245 Hatteras Street, Woodland Hills, CA 91367
Honorary Member, Curmudgeon Lodge of Deventer, The Netherlands.
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<http://HakesEdStuff.blogspot.com/>

"Science should be visualized as progressing from problem to problem 
- to problems of ever increasing depth. Problems crop up especially 
when we are disappointed in our expectations, or when our theories 
involve us in difficulties, in contradictions; and these may arise 
either within a theory, or between two different theories, or as the 
result of a clash between our theories and our observations. Thus 
science starts from problems, and not from observations; though 
observations may give rise to a problem, especially if they are 
unexpected; that is to say, if they clash with our expectations or 
theories."
     Karl R. Popper (2002) in "Conjectures and Refutations"


REFERENCES [TinyURL's courtesy of <http://tinyurl.com/create.php>]
Hake, R.R. 2000a. "Problem-based learning (LONG!), " PhysLrnR post 20 
Feb 2000 15:24:45-0800; online at <http://tinyurl.com/nt5bcr>.

Hake, R.R. 2000b. "History of PBL," PhysLrnR post 21 Feb 2000 
20:23:20-0800; online at <http://tinyurl.com/lfpuc4>.

Hake, R.R. 2000c. "PBL in Engineering Education, "PhysLrnR post of 22 
Feb 2000 12:14:29 -0800; online at
<http://tinyurl.com/lptsr9>.

Hake, R.R. 2000d. "Problem-based learning (LONG!), " PhysLrnR post 14 
Mar 2000 11:37:46-0800; online at <http://tinyurl.com/lg4zxg>.

Hake, R.R. 2004a. "Re: Effectiveness of PBL," PhysLrnR post of 21 May 
2004 18:42:23-0700; online at <http://tinyurl.com/mvhxra>.

Hake, R.R. 2004b. "Re: Effectiveness of PBL - Response By Don Woods," 
PhysLrnR post of 23 May 2004 12:02:34-0700; online at 
<http://tinyurl.com/mfy44t>.

Hake, R.R. 2005. "Problem Based Learning (was Teaching Methods, 
Fads,Time Spent on Mechanics, Etc.)," PhysLrnR post of 3 Aug 2005 
14:48:37-0700; online at <http://tinyurl.com/kvvzmh>.

Hake, R.R. 2009. "Re: Active Learning in Medicine," PhysLrnR post of 
11 May 2009 14:31:12-0700; online at <http://tinyurl.com/ljhzxw>.

Lasry, N. 2009.  "PER and Medical Education (was Why don't faculty 
use PER products more often?),"  PhysLrnR post of 27 Aug 2009 
16:21:11-0400; online at <http://tinyurl.com/kk2wu3>.

Popper, K.R. 2002.  "Conjectures and Refutations: The Growth of 
Scientific Knowledge." Routledge, 2nd ed. Amazon.com information at 
<http://tinyurl.com/oxy675>. Note the searchable "Look Inside" 
feature.  See also Popper (2001).

Popper, K.R. 2001.  "All Life is Problem Solving" Routledge. 
Amazon.com information at <http://tinyurl.com/lpve6a>. Note the 
searchable "Look Inside" feature.

Woods, D.R. 2005. "Problem-based Learning, especially in the context 
of large classes" at <http://chemeng.mcmaster.ca/pbl/pbl.htm>.

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