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Hello!

I had been slowly moving to a hybrid format for about four years....my nursing assistant courses are now considered hybrid (50% f2f & 50%online).....TBL remains my center.

Each team has their own WIMBA classroom, their own Discussion Board in Blackboard, and their own Voice Board.

Students do all iRATs online.  Keeping a tight time frame for the testing seems to work (say 20 minutes for a 20 question mc iRAT).  They come to class and do the gRAT in person followed by an application activity.

I also have a number of units where they do online gRATs as well. 
The "recorder" is appointed by me.  Students have a number of specific instructions, i.e. no one can take the gRAT unless they have completed the iRAT.
I provide a copy of the gRAT in WIMBA.  
Students come to a consensus on answers and the appointed person takes the GRAT for the team in Blackboard.  
Answers to the gRAT are set to be released to the recorder immediately....and students discuss and submit online appeals as desired.  
The students archive their discussion in WIMBA.  

I include several online application activities....students use their WIMBA team classroom for these.  We provide decisions in central discussion board.

I follow units with clarification notes (addressing their difficulties and omissions).  These are provided in the discussion board and in Voice Board.

I can give you more info if you like....hard to describe here.  I have not wanted to let all of the TBL process go online....and of course, students need to learn/practice nursing skills in person.

I have attached the notes for the poster session I did for our last TBL session.

Thanks!

Gail

Gail Feigenbaum, RN, PhD
Nursing Assistant Instructor
School of Health, Wellness, Public Safety
Central New Mexico Community College
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From: Team-Based Learning [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sandy Cook [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:58 PM
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Subject: Re: Online

Dear Mary,

An interesting question which you will probably get a variety of responses.  I know there are people who are doing much online learning with collaborations of teams - with successful results.  The issue is - Is it TBL - or is it some other type of collaborative/team learning?

From a purist standpoint - I personally believe it is difficult to do TBL online.  But I know people attempt to do many elements of TBL in that manner.

IRAT - of course the questions can be done before class electronically (and many people do that to save classroom time.  You just lose the control over how independent that process really is.

GRAT - much more difficult to do online.  Requires a real-time team consensus.  Sure, Blogs/chat/(web) discussion groups can permit teams to discuss their answers...but again, you lose some of the control over the team dynamics (talking vs writing, in person versus virtual) and perhaps can't know someone is looking up the answers.  You also lose the opportunity for the faculty to facilitate a whole class discussion around the answers - unless you go real high tech with everyone virtually in the classroom.  But then you can lose attention.  I know I don't stay focused when I'm working in an online environment (conference calls for example)- compared to being there in person.

Application - if follow the framework of 4'S (which are the elements of a good application)- it can be difficult to do some of those within an online environment.  As a re-cap, the 4 S's are:
1. Same problem (easy)
2. Significant problem (also easy)
3. Specific choice (easy to design to have to make a choice, more difficult to have that choice be decided collaboratively by the team.
4. Simultaneous reporting - (and subsequent follow-up/discussion/debate).  This is the more difficult aspect.


So, there are many forms of online, collaborative, e-learning which are great, possible, and feasible.  But, my personal belief is that TBL (as defined) still requires real-time in-person team and faculty interactions for the best benefits of all the values that come with that process.

Sandy
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From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hadley, Mary
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:18 AM
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Subject: Re: Online

Hello,

I am working with a group of faculty who are all interested in implementing TBL in their class room or revising some things they do.  One question we had at our meeting is how can TBL be implemented in the on line setting.  This is not something I do nor do I know anyone who uses TBL online.

Anyone out there use TBL in an online setting?

Are there any suggestions for things to do and not to do? Perhaps this has been addressed in previous discussions. If so is there an archive of questions and responses I could search.



Thanks for your input.


Mary






M.  Hadley, PhD, FACN
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