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I use TurningPoint with the NXT response pads.  It allows me do the IF-AT in student self-paced mode.  I give each team a response pad.  Then I project on the screen the response grid.  It shows the team name, which item they are on and gives them a red "X" if they got the item wrong or a green check mark if they got it correct.  It does not show what they answered except on the individual response pad.  Obviously, if they get an item wrong they simply go back and correct it.  The real beauty is that the reporting software keeps track of all their responses for each item, I can easily do the 4/2/1/0 grading.

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> On Jan 7, 2015, at 3:37 PM, Josie Fraser <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> We use clickers from Turning Technologies for the iRAT. It gives us the advantage of being able to create a 10-15 question RAP test & then, using the software, produce and give out several "different" papers (same questions, same answers/distractors, but occurring in varied order for each version of the paper). This minimises cheating. Turning Tech's TurningPoint software generates the question paper versions - & also scores the iRATs "live" in the class. We give each student a clicker, associated with their student ID, and they enter the 'version' of the paper hey receive before entering their answers to the 10-15 questions. 
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> This means students have all thought about the same questions before they retake the RAP questions as a team, which is advantageous. AND TurningPoint allows us to get instant charts of the % of students selecting correct responses vs each distractor response on the staff PC at the front of the class. This is great for accurately planning corrective instruction while teams debate their tRAT answers. And also allows us to get item analysis for improving RAP questions / distractors in future course cohorts.
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> Despite the tech advantages outlined, we stuck to the IF-AT cards for tRAT for several reasons: 
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> (1) the energy generated in the room can't be matched!
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> (2) the ease of checking whether teams have appropriately scored their 4/2/1/0 (depending on how many boxes scratched off on each line) when teams hand in their cards
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> (3) although the scores for each team then have to be quickly added up and typed onto the PC / written on the document cam or overhead projector at the front of the class for that lovely motivating inter-team competition effect, even with our cohorts of approx. 200 students, it's only 36 IF AT cards to score and the students do their own math - we are just checking.
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> I would say give IF AT a try! Will look forward to seeing how it works out compared to your current system. 
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> Good luck!
> Josie
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> Dr Josie A Fraser
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> From: Team-Based Learning <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Carson, Ron <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: 07 January 2015 21:50:56
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> Subject: Re: [TBL_List] IF AT: Pros and Cons
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> Thank you Candice.
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> I’ve use Canvas in the past for IRATS/TRATs but have NOT used randomization.  However, there’s been some recent concerns that make randomization something more important than in the past.
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> The randomization does remove the “exact question” conditions between IRAT/TRAT and is something that I hadn’t thoroughly considered.
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> Thank you for your feedback!
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> Ron
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> From: Small, Candice [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 4:47 PM
> To: Carson, Ron; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: IF AT: Pros and Cons
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> Ron,
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> Were you planning to use Canvas for the TRATs?  I use our LMS for the IRATS, without any IFAT grading, and then in class we use the IFAT scratcher cards for the TRATs.
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> I love using the LMS for the IRATs because of the instant grading.
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> I’m also not sure how a randomized question bank works for you?  I think there’s a lot of benefit to having the same exact questions for the IRAT and the TRAT.
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> -Candice
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> Candice Benjes-Small, MLIS
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> From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carson, Ron
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 4:37 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: IF AT: Pros and Cons
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> Since starting TBL 2 years ago, I’ve resisted using the IF AT method.  However, at the end of last term, I decide I would give them a try.  Next week is my 1st scheduled RAT and as I’m developing the quiz I’m developing interesting questions about the pros and cons of the IF AT method versus using Canvas.
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> With Canvas, I can:
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> 1.       Use a question bank to randomize questions
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> 2.       Randomize answers
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> 3.       Grades are automatically recorded
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> I can not do these with the IF AT and I’m wondering if the benefits of the IF AT are outweighed by the cons.
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> Thanks,
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> Ron
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