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negative feedback is always hard to take

my first TBL course (as I affectionately remember as the sinking the boat to arrange swimming lessons course) had some really upset students.....and the unhappy have a way of finding the undecided

it was hard but I weathered that storm

the next year I used the same RATs.....but spent more time establishing my rationales and anticipating and discussing openly the likely negative comments before evaluations

the other advice I have incorporated is to give students early victories before I ramp up difficulty

our modern students don't seem to do well with failure (see mueller and dweck if you want an interesting take on this)

so early victories can be important in increasing their confidence in the learner-centred classroom

Jim Sibley
Director
Centre for Instructional Support
Faculty of Applied Science
University of British Columbia
604-822-9241



-----Original Message-----
From: Team-Based Learning on behalf of Parto Khansari
Sent: Fri 10/30/2009 11:30 AM
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Subject: Re: TBL a disaster - help appreciated
 
Dear Marla

I teach the cardiovascular pathophysiology to the second year pharmacy
students. I recently had my first exam and an assessment of TBL in the
class. The feedback I got from the students about IRAT/TRAT was actually
positive, and they thought having IRAT/TRAT at the beginning of every
class was very helpful to prepared them for the class applications. One
suggestion I can make is that the questions on IRAT should be fairly
straight forward and just assess them on understanding the basis of the
big picture. Where they need to apply critical thinking and synthesizing
a thought seems to be more relevant to applications and of course the
exams.

I hope you continue with exploring the TBL, it is a very powerful
teaching /learning technique

Good Luck

Parto

 

Parto Khansari Ph.D.

Assistant Professor of Pharmacology

California Northstate College of Pharmacy

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Rancho Cordova, CA  95670

916-631-8108 Ext. 226

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From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Marla
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:34 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: TBL a disaster - help appreciated

 

Hello-

I am an adjunct psychology professor at a local university.  I have been
teaching the same class for 6 years and just this semester decided to
try TBL.  I thought it was going well until I asked for feedback from
the class after their first RAT - it turned it to a 30 minute discussion
where about 8 students became very hostile towards me (saying that the
questions were too hard, they understood the readings but shouldn't be
held accountable to synthesize the material before we even talked about
it in class, they wanted to re-visit the distribution of grades and when
I said 'no' they said that was unfair, etc.).  One student is still
arguing with me about one question that their team appealed which I
denied (this is 1 point among many for the semester).  While I love the
idea of TBL, I am tempted to resort to the boring-yet-familiar lecture.
These students' whining is really wearing on me and instead of enjoying
teaching (it is a part-time job I do, and certainly NOT for the money) I
am counting the days until the semester is over.

Any advice, words of encouragement, etc. would be very much appreciated
at this point!

Thanks.