Dean's concern may be related to his student population.
The teachers I work with only use tRAT scores to add a few extra credit "bonus" points to individual, iRAT scrores .
The teams still tear into the material as furiously as you'd like.
-M
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From: Team-Based Learning [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dean Parmelee [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 7:41 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Grade Inflation
I disagree with reducing the group grade component- this will diminish
the power of the learning which is the ultimate goal. Dean
Nothing like iPhone
On May 21, 2010, at 6:09 PM, "Seltzer, Joseph" <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> One can always set the ranges on the various items. If you are
> concerned that the grades are too high (which is usually because the
> group part is very high - such as the 93.5% below), just allow less
> of the grade to be group.
> Joe Seltzer
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> From: Team-Based Learning [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Herb Coleman [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 1:17 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Grade Inflation
>
> There must be something in the air this semester. For the first time
> in
> a while I was a little concerned about the appearance of grade
> inflation
> because it looked like everyone was going to get an A. For a little
> bit
> of context, this was a Human Growth and Development course. Over 90%
> of
> the students were pre-nursing or allied health majors. More than 60%
> of
> the class was over 30 years old. There were only 20 students and until
> the last two weeks only 3 students had an absence. So you had
> dedicated,
> older than average, motivated students. In a small class (even by
> community college standards).
>
> Still I decided to look at how the grade weights washed out. The
> iRAT's
> had the lowest average (73%) and accounted for 5% of their grade. The
> T-RAT's had 94% average and accounted for 19% of their grade. The rest
> of the items spread out accounting for between 5 and 14% of the final
> grade. When I looked at the grouping I felt ok about the the final
> results. Homework accounted for 24% of the grade (with a 95% average).
> Teamwork accounted for 50% of their grade with a a 93.5% average and,
> individual assessment accounted for 19% of their grade with an 81 %
> average. There is also a professor rating representing 7% of their
> grade
> with an 83% average.
>
> Incidentally, the top half would have had A's without the professor
> rating (which is based on attendance, homework, iRATs, mid-term grade
> and class contribution). The lower half would have had B's. As it is
> 10%
> got B's.
>
> Edward Bell wrote:
>> -->
>> TBL Users:
>> We (Drake U. Pharmacy) began using TBL last year in one of our major
>> courses (Therapeutics, a 3-semester course, 110 students) - this year
>> is our 2nd year. Grades this Spring semester were quite high - 91%
>> average (85 A final course grades). This spring semester included 4
>> exams (70% of course grade), 9 IRATs (10% of course grade), 9 GRATs
>> (15% of course grade), and 2 peer evaluations (5% of course grade).
>> Many students received an A or B that actually had exam and IRAT
>> averages each less than the final grade (ie, exam and IRAT av. 75%
>> but
>> B grade or even 77% each av. and A final grade) - the high GRAT and
>> peer evals pushed up final averages, perhaps too much. * My
>> questions:
>> how much should group work/peer evals factor into final grades, and
>> have others had a similar experience (ie, where individual, group,
>> and
>> final course grades do not seem to correlate)?*
>> Many Thanks
>> Ed Bell
>> --
>>
>> Edward A. Bell, PharmD, BCPS
>> Professor of Clinical Sciences
>> Drake University College of Pharmacy
>> Des Moines, IA
>> 515-271-1841
>
> --
>
> Herb Coleman,Ph.D
> Dir. Instructional Computing and Technology
> Adjunct Professor of Psychology
> Austin Community College
> Highland Business Center
> 5930 Middle Fiskville Rd.
> Austin, TX 78752
> [log in to unmask]
> 512-223-7746
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> “I, and every other professor on this campus, are
> here to help you to find, take back, and keep your
> righteous mind.”
>
> ---Professor Melvin Tolson
> from the motion picture "The Great Debaters"
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