I like the contract idea....
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From: Team-Based Learning [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Patty-Jeanne Slaughter
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Jennifer and Sandy - I think your comments "hit the mark!" I have had similar, mixed reactions from students. Most, while skeptical at first, love TBL at the end of the semester. I have found that those who dislike TBL are students who want to be spoon fed and dislike the idea of being responsible for their own learning. (On Senior Exit Surveys several students have commented that they like the professors who "tell them what they need to learn" and who "don't teach them anything they don't need to know."- these types of students will probably never be TBL fans :D).
I "frontload" a lot of information on the first and second days of class about the TBL process and have each group develop Team Contracts where they establish the "ground rules" and expectations for team behavior. In the end, there will probably always be a small percentage of students who don't embrace TBL - no matter what we do.
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From: Team-Based Learning [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Imazeki [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:34 PM
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These responses (including the mix of mostly positive with a couple negative) sound very much like what I get/have gotten from my students every semester. It seems there are always a couple (sometimes more) that simply WANT to be lectured at and don't like that they have to 'teach themselves' so much. My impression is that the students who are most resistant are those who are actually "good students" in traditional classes and their resistance to TBL stems from the fact that they have largely figured out how to do well in traditional classes with minimal effort, to regurgitate whatever their teachers have said in lecture, but TBL forces them to actually think for themselves. I had one such student this semester who spoke to me about halfway through the semester and actually said, "I don't think it's fair that I have to take this class [it's required for majors] but you're the only one teaching it so I don't have the opportunity to take a 'normal' class. I get As in regular le cture cl
I don't think it's about preparing students for the experience - I have a lot of students who say they were really skeptical at the beginning but they now understand how much more they learn with the team approach. I've also asked a lot of students what more I can do to prepare them at the beginning and they tell me they don't think there's much more I can do, that I was very clear from the first day but they had to sort of 'see it in action' before it really sunk in. I've mostly just accepted that you can't please all of the people all of the time but as long as it's only one or two in each class that don't "get it" (and the positive responses from students far, far outweigh the negative), I feel like it's still vastly better than what I used to do.
Jennifer
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Jennifer Imazeki
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San Diego State University
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Sandy Cook <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
What did you do about the one who really hated TBL, wanted to be lectured at, thought that was what you were being paid to do - s/he was not there to learn by him/herself! Is that an issue of preparing students for the experience or just the fact that there will be some who just don't get it, don't like it, and want to be spoon fed - no matter what you do?
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Thanks, Gail, I'm so glad you picked up on that. Two students actually mentioned this. I was thinking of a group share where a rep from each team forms a temporary group for research or TRAT then reports back to their permanent teams and have that rotate through each unit. It hasn't fully gelled so that's why I'm sharing with the group.
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:45 PM, FEIGENBAUM, GAIL <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Nice journal assignment and prompt, Herb. Interesting student responses as well.
I was thinking about one of the comments....that the student didn't know others on the other side of the room.........
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Since students have a large lab skill component, I often assign partners that are not team members....as students will perform skills on many different patients in the clinical setting.
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"Arthur: It would have to be a 747.
Cobb: Why is that?
Arthur: Because on a 747 the pilot is up top, and the first
class cabin is in the nose, so no one would walk through. But you'd have
to buy out the entire cabin. And the first class flight attendant.
Saito: I bought the airline.....It seemed neater."
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